We don't need them anymore.

[Heroman3003]

Years Later the same thing gets sold for a few bucks at a souvenir store with the small word (replica) printed on the back where no one can see it. Now they all run around and claim they won the tournament.

You see, that's where your comparison falls apart. Because it's not a trophy you won. You won a cool fancy hat that nobody else has. Nobody else but you cares about the tournament you won years ago, they buy the replica just want the same hat. Nobody will bother claiming they won it because they don't care about how it was gotten, only that it looks good. And if somebody does claim to have won, proving them is as easy as pointing to the little 'replica' label and then laughing at them. But you won't have to do that because nobody gives a damn about your old rankings or tournaments or whatever it was. People just want their fancy hat, and would wear that hat even if it had a huge "IM A TOTAL LOSER WHO BUYS REPLICAS INSTEAD OF JOINING THE GAME TEN YEARS AGO" label on it as long as it actually looks the same.

[Araxes]

You're absolutely right that I never bothered in the first place. Want to know why? Because it was WIDELY known that getting into the top 100 was basically impossible without win trading and Feast queues were absurdly long because once you DID get up there, there was no reason to queue anymore. There's no "narrative spreading" going on, these are well known problems the Feast had and entirely why it got axed completely. Or did you forget that they completely cut the game mode entirely? Do you think they would have done that if it wasn't completely unsalvageable?

Ill repeat it here again. Solo queue Feast was as fair as it could get for ANY MMO for the first 4 Season. Team Feast was another Story and i agree that the TEAM-QUEUE Feast was littered with Win Trading. Which is why i did not participate in it. The best course of action would have been to take the rewards away from Win traders.

The Win Trading or Boosting only started later on when the Game grew more and more and Sellers Could make money of such services.

It was known that Team Feast was full of Win traders, yes. It was removed for likely this reason. Sadly people forgot to distinguish between Solo Feast and Team Feast. Now its just ALL Feast Seasons were "Win traded".

I know i earned it and i still have my Screenshot from the moment where i hit the required Points.

[Selsix]

Ill repeat it here again. Solo queue Feast was as fair as it could get for ANY MMO for the first 4 Season. Team Feast was another Story and i agree that the TEAM-QUEUE Feast was littered with Win Trading. Which is why i did not participate in it. The best course of action would have been to take the rewards away from Win traders.

The Win Trading or Boosting only started later on when the Game grew more and more and Sellers Could make money of such services.

It was known that Team Feast was full of Win traders, yes. It was removed for likely this reason. Sadly people forgot to distinguish between Solo Feast and Team Feast. Now its just ALL Feast Seasons were "Win traded".

I know i earned it and i still have my Screenshot from the moment where i hit the required Points.

Let me be clear, I am not saying nobody earned their rank in the Feast. If you did, which I believe you on, then good for you for putting in the effort to get that. I am saying only that it was insanely well known that the Feast was rotten to the core and simply couldn't be fixed. Whether this was restricted only to team queue or not I admittedly am less knowledgeable on and I freely admit this so I will simply take your word for it.

That being said, being forced to solo queue into PvP in an MMO based around teamwork just to get a fair victory isn't exactly a strong point in favor of the Feast being a good game mode. The rewards were the same, someone who win traded in team has the same trophy you do. It's all already devalued. You should take pride in the knowledge you got yours legitimately and leave it at that. Who cares what other people think? And if someone gets the replica and starts claiming they earned it too, it's very easy to call them on that by just checking the name tag.

[Astronis]

You see, that's where your comparison falls apart. Because it's not a trophy you won. You won a cool fancy hat that nobody else has.

The trophy was a cool fancy hat.

[Atreus]

Let me be clear, I am not saying nobody earned their rank in the Feast. If you did, which I believe you on, then good for you for putting in the effort to get that.

Yes, you kind of are, so perhaps consider your words more carefully.

Comparing that to a glam set people got for doing a PvP mode basically nobody touched outside of discord win traders is laughable.

[Heroman3003]

The trophy was a cool fancy hat.

Well, that's the issue with comparison. A trophy is a trophy in that it only exists to show off your achievement. It doesn't have any other purpose.

A hat exists to look good. Using a hat that looks super good as a trophy is just asking for someone to start copying it because it looks good with 0 care or regard for whatever the hat meant as 'a trophy'.

Plus you get to keep your special 'trophy' hat. After all, everyone will be able to instantly tell if someone's using a 'fake' one. To me it seems like OP is fully aware that nobody in the modern community gives a shit about achievements of PVPers from 10 years ago, and that those rewards were the only way they'd ever get any acknowledgement for those and the moment you can get the same looks without needing the actual 'trophy' attached, their peak life moment of "top100 wintrader gamemode player" will lose what little value it had remaining.

[Selsix]

Yes, you kind of are, so perhaps consider your words more carefully.

That was admittedly hyperbole on my part. If you took offense, I apologize.

[Atreus]

That was admittedly hyperbole on my part. If you took offense, I apologize.

Handshake brother, no stress.

[Astronis]

Well, that's the issue with comparison. A trophy is a trophy in that it only exists to show off your achievement. It doesn't have any other purpose.

I think that's a pretty narrow definition of 'trophy'. Part of it is being desirable for some reason. Many high-level real life trophies are made of precious metals, for instance, which if nothing else you could sell and make a lot of money off them. Quite a lot of them are also beautiful in their own right. Much older trophies were used as warning not to mess with the person who had them, like a string of ears taken from fallen foes.

In FFXIV, some trophies are awarded for competition--currently, augmented Hellhound weapons and exclusive portrait frames. I would hope that old Feast rewards that were awarded for PVP competition would be added to that list. Others are awarded for difficult achievements--clearing Ultimates, obtaining all the EX mounts, stuff like that. All of those are desired for more than just showing off achievement, but they are used that way, too. People aren't wearing "Ultimate Legend" titles only because they think the title sounds cool.

A hat exists to look good. Using a hat that looks super good as a trophy is just asking for someone to start copying it because it looks good with 0 care or regard for whatever the hat meant as 'a trophy'.

Yeah. I want the flaming dangernoodle from P8S, but don't want to learn High Concept. Woe Is Me, I don't get a flaming dangernoodle. At least for a long time. Kinda want one of the augmented Hellhound weapons too, but pffffhahahhaahah playing that much PVP. In a way, The Desire for Shiny Things That We Have Nevertheless Not Earned was addressed by Yoshi-P in his latest "I'm Disappointed" letter on modding. People were devaluing the achievements of other players by just plopping the Ultimate weapons on themselves without doing the work to get them...in other words, treating them with zero regard for what they mean as a trophy. So I hope that whatever plan they have for the old Feast rewards preserves some of the exclusivity, since the devs do seem to understand this motivation in players.

To me it seems like OP is fully aware that nobody in the modern community gives a shit about achievements of PVPers from 10 years ago, and that those rewards were the only way they'd ever get any acknowledgement for those and the moment you can get the same looks without needing the actual 'trophy' attached, their peak life moment of "top100 wintrader gamemode player" will lose what little value it had remaining.

Sounded more like OP cared about the promise of exclusivity being gone back on, but that's just assuming they're telling the truth. I'm sure there's some sting in OP's special item getting much wider use when he tried very hard to obtain it when it was available. That's understandable.

[Burmecia]

Same as the legacy chocobo.

Isnt the legacy chocobo just cs mount in - cant remember which one - cn or kr servers? As in, anyone can just buy it. + we have preorder earrings as part of that weird bundle in global cs.
Could have at least chosen the most practical of the preorder earrings, the ala mhigan ones.