We don't need them anymore.

[Heroman3003]

Did they also explicitly state this regarding the mounts? That's the other concern.

I don't think anything was said regarding mounts even being re-released, only sets.

[Shipp]

Because the people putting in the demand for old stuff to come back are not doing it because they want more PvP rewards or more accessible stuff, it's because they want the stuff that once was accessible but is now not to be accessible again because they like the appearance of those specific sets.

I mean, there is an option for 'middle ground'. A dye-able recolor of those OG special-super-unique-reward sets as a 'new' reward, but let's be honest, that's extra effort and wouldn't make the people miffed about it any less angry, so there's no point.

It's like that meme comic about a guy who wants to just order coffee and yall are the cashier offering all the weird mixed drinks (aka 'compromises') when all the guy wants is to be able to get some plain old coffee (aka access to the old sets).

I'll be honest, I don't even know what those sets look like or why the demand for them been enough for SE to even bother (must be VERY high for them to actually, yknow, do something over nothing), but it is absolutely hilarious that people defending the idea of permanent exclusivity do so while closing their eyes and ears and pretending like they do not understand the one and only reason why people want it. "Oh, they want more rewards for PvP!" no they want access to those clothes "They want to steal our glory!" they just want the clothes "They must want more clothing options to be added" no, they want those specific ones "They just want to push out us oldheads" they dont even know you exist they just want the outfit.

No, it's more like the guy walks into Starbucks in the middle of Winter and orders the exclusive St. Patrick's Day limited-time drink that is only served for the week of the holiday and the cashier is wondering why this man is acting belligerent over being told no.

[KolaPepper]

No, it's more like the guy walks into Starbucks in the middle of Winter and orders the exclusive St. Patrick's Day limited-time drink that is only served for the week of the holiday and the cashier is wondering why this man is acting belligerent over being told no.

Now just replace "the guy" and "this man" with "the majority of the player base" and you will understand why the devs are making the change. No small group of players should have a say over changes that benefit everyone except them like the people that hate the glam restriction changes. Call the majority of players entitled all you want but what they want matters more to square enix than what a fraction of old top 100 players want and the company is making the common sense business move of listening to the masses.

This is also a good move for the game's budget because the gear and mounts are already made. They are just locked behind an arbitrary restriction to access them. So all the effort/money used making the sets and mounts will not be wasted if they just turn the switch on that puts them back in the game as rewards. This also doesn't mean that new pvp rewards will NEVER be made again like some people think just because the feast rewards are coming back.

This may upset you personally, maybe even cause you to quit the game before you reach Dawntrail. But the benefit of adding them vastly outweigh the negatives whether you understand that or not. There are plenty of other MMOs that punish their players the way you want them to if that's what you're interested in.

[KolaPepper]

I don't think anything was said regarding mounts even being re-released, only sets.

If they did add the mounts back, what are some ways you think they could make them different from the original without completely changing them? Maybe change the colors of the eyes and mouth of the hellhound mounts but keep the same body color? Possibly change the color of the rocket boosters on the flying chair mounts? Or they could possibly go the king porxie mount route and just add something extra on the model similar to how the king porxie has a crown on its head but besides that looks the exact same as the beast tribe alternative. There's lots of things they could do but I can only think of the examples I mentioned.

[Zakuyia]

Look everyone in this forum is projecting there gameplay onto others. You guys really need to stop. If people want items like this then you guys need to stop acting like its a problem. Your literally hindering the games growth. Thats like me saying I hope no one gets a regalia like I did then get angry people get it? Or basically I dont want people to get fall guy items so i hope it doesnt come back...... Honestly you guys telling people they dont want this to come back are literally hurting this game more than helping.

[Basteala]

Well right now SE doesn't need anyone on the NA servers with what little they've done for the DDOS.

[moodud]

So like making cool pvp rewards available to everyone, and being lied to about the cool exclusive rewards you got from certain competitions no longer being exclusive are separate things?

I think everyone agrees that the game making cool rewards available for everyone is a good thing and winners-only exclusive items aren’t necessary anymore.
They could just make new cool rewards, but they chose to go back on their words and bring back items that were already labeled as limited exclusive for competition winners as the rewards. Competition is the key word here, it’s a reward you earned from competing to be the top players, you didn’t get it by chance. It must feel like being betrayed, and it’s only natural to be upset. You don’t normally hand out gold medals or trophies to just anyone.

While this may make many people happy that they will get cool rewards that they may have always wanted, it also shows that the devs' words may not be trusted and reduces any credibility they may have.

[ACE135]

Waaaah thing I've had to years should remain a FOMO item forever! Get over it.

Well, the old sets aren't "fear of missing out" anymore because you already missed it.

[Ellona_Andrivari]

I'd have more sympathy if the bulk majority of feast rankings weren't cheated to high hell and back. Imagine locking some incredibly nice glams behind fomo win trading.

[Valence]

I'd have more sympathy if the bulk majority of feast rankings weren't cheated to high hell and back.

That kind of comment always makes me ponder: did you take part in Feast?