We don't need them anymore.

[Shipp]

You don't get to represent all of the players from back then. You are an outlier, not the norm, and you only represent one, not multiple people. Sure, some people still play after 12 years, but those are very far and in between.

So again, I ask, where is your source for this?

[Atreus]

And yet its the OP that's stamping their feet and throwing their toys away because they'd rather see them in the trash than see them shared, same as any other Feaster who agrees with them.

One wonders if they even deserved their spots at all if this is all it took for them to start crying and screaming. Or maybe they're one of those infamous win-traders? They certainly doesn't strike me as someone with the mettle to fight and climb, buckling and running as they just did, and it's not like they provided any proof of the things they allegedly "earned".

Oh well, guess we'll never know~

Despite the lovely, hard-stuck Gold players' opinions on win-trading back in the day, most Feasters are great with them coming back. They just want them earned again through ranked in the same manner.

[Astronis]

NOBODY!!! cares about what happened 10 years ago,

You obviously care. This whole thread is full of people who really very obviously care. Be honest about that.

ETA:

Despite the lovely, hard-stuck Gold players' opinions on win-trading back in the day, most Feasters are great with them coming back. They just want them earned again through ranked in the same manner.

Put them on the Commendation Crystal vendor. Seems like the best way to go about it.

[Selsix]

Same as the legacy chocobo.

The legacy chocobo is notably different. That's something people paid actual money for. You only got it if you continued to pay your sub in the gap between 1.X dying and 2.0 launching. It wasn't a reward for something ingame, it's more equivalent to a digital collectable people spent three figures on. Comparing that to a glam set people got for doing a PvP mode basically nobody touched outside of discord win traders is laughable.

[KolaPepper]

Second, it doesn't create an imbalance. Just like life, there are limited time exclusives. Nobody needs these items to progress. They are purely cosmetic. It upsets no game balance whatsoever.

Those systems worked back then and they still work to this day. If they did not, you would not see it still happen in life in general.

If new players are going to pass on this game because of the tiny miniscule list of unobtainables, then yeah, "tough luck" isn't exactly what I'd say, but it's pretty close to the same sentiment.

The fact that you dismiss cosmetics just because they carry no in game stats shows how disconnected you are from the player base at large. Ff14's cosmetic system is the basis for almost every reward in the game ranging from casual content like island sanctuary to hardcore content like ultimate weapons. Players enjoy collecting cosmetics and it is the motivation for many people to even attempt new/harder content.
Just because there are timed exclusives in real life does not mean that people need to deal with that as well in a game they pay to play for enjoyment. Gacha games heavily rely on the predatory FOMO model because they are free to play and want to make as much money as they can at the expense of their players. Many people use Ff14 as a form of escapism from the cruelty of the real world and do not need to be punished for not playing the game at a specific point in time for the game to make profit like gacha games do. The devs moved away from the timed feast rewards for a reason and are listening to the needs of the majority of their players. You may not like this but it is just the reality that Ff14 wants to present itself as welcoming to as many people as possible and limited feast rewards have the opposite effect.

[Brandr]

Glad you understood, OP.

Differently from real life, video game accomplishments are not high value.

The fun in doing it is the true prize. If you did for the accomplishment, seek therapy.

[Araxes]

As much as I find the whole topic stupid and think those rewards should come back, I want to point out that Araxes was one of the few pvpers back then who actively spoke out on this forum against the blatant win trading.
I wasn't active back then here but was still following the forum (I think it was around 2017 or 2018) and I still remember a thread about it.

So while I don't agree with their stance, I really think they are a someone who earned those rewards fair and square.

I do to this day. I am for this reason not participating in Crystal Conflict since Season 2 because i was met with Cheating and Win Trading as early as Season 1.

I do not know who set the claim "All feast rewards were win traded" in motion, but the first 4 Seasons were the fairest ones in the Game when it comes to the Soloqueue. The Team version of Feast was Win traded AF right from the beginning. I guess it did not help that joining in Teams made it far easier. Probably the reason it was removed.

Something i also don't understand is people understanding my post as screaming or crying. Maybe any form of criticism is crying to them. If yes: That must be difficult to live with.

It is pretty simple to me. We (the PvPers back then) were sold a Time limited Premium reward for achieving a certain Goal. For the sake of comparison: imagine yourself participating in a sports tournament or a Card Game tournament. You practice and train. You are told you get a unique and time limited Trophy, reward, whatever. You actually win! You did not think you could but you did! You get your Time limited Exclusive Trophy! You are so happy!

Years Later the same thing gets sold for a few bucks at a souvenir store with the small word (replica) printed on the back where no one can see it. Now they all run around and claim they won the tournament.

It is not about other people though. It is about yet another broken promise/word.

[Atreus]

The legacy chocobo is notably different. That's something people paid actual money for. You only got it if you continued to pay your sub in the gap between 1.X dying and 2.0 launching. It wasn't a reward for something ingame, it's more equivalent to a digital collectable people spent three figures on. Comparing that to a glam set people got for doing a PvP mode basically nobody touched outside of discord win traders is laughable.

What's laughable are people like you who struggled to climb (or didn't bother to begin with) and instead decided to spread a narrative to make yourself feel better about not getting any of it. You'll be right at home on /r/ffxiv.

Now queue up.

[Selsix]

What's laughable are people like you who struggled to climb (or didn't bother to begin with) and instead decided to spread a narrative to make yourself feel better about not getting any of it. You'll be right at home on /r/ffxiv.

Now queue up.

You're absolutely right that I never bothered in the first place. Want to know why? Because it was WIDELY known that getting into the top 100 was basically impossible without win trading and Feast queues were absurdly long because once you DID get up there, there was no reason to queue anymore. There's no "narrative spreading" going on, these are well known problems the Feast had and entirely why it got axed completely. Or did you forget that they completely cut the game mode entirely? Do you think they would have done that if it wasn't completely unsalvageable?

[KolaPepper]

It is pretty simple to me. We (the PvPers back then) were sold a Time limited Premium reward for achieving a certain Goal. For the sake of comparison: imagine yourself participating in a sports tournament or a Card Game tournament. You practice and train. You are told you get a unique and time limited Trophy, reward, whatever. You actually win! You did not think you could but you did! You get your Time limited Exclusive Trophy! You are so happy!

Years Later the same thing gets sold for a few bucks at a souvenir store with the small word (replica) printed on the back where no one can see it. Now they all run around and claim they won the tournament.

Anyone who has the original feast gear will still have their bragging rights as their gear won't say "replica" on it. Im not sure how the mounts will work but anyone using the replica gear and claiming to have won it in the feast all those years ago will easily be called out just from the name of their gear for not actually winning it from the original feast.

Your trophy scenario also applies because someone who wasn't on the team that won the football superbowl could easily just 3D print the trophy. They could even pay a lot of money to have a replica trophy casted in real gold that looks basically 1 to 1 of the real thing. But no matter how many trophies they replicate, they will never be able to say that they earned the real one and if they do try to do that then anyone will quickly call them a liar.

You have the original and no one can say otherwise. That along with the feeling of accomplishment for winning top 100 is reward enough in my honest opinion for the veterans.