We don't need them anymore.

[Shistar]

It's fairly obvious why some people, particularly those who own these rewards, wouldn't be happy to see them released for everyone to obtain. Even worse if it's just a matter of paying a few wolf marks or something similar.
But OP, you really don't drive a strong point. You're like I don't play the game and don't care for it, but I don't want ANYONE to EVER even think of touching MY toys from 10 years ago. They're mine even if I don't wanna play with them ever again.
It just comes off as very selfish and immature.

Yes, you earned it. You spent a lot of effort to obtain these rewards that were limited to only a few for an extremely long time, and announced as such. But the value is not in the item itself, it is the emotional attachment you and the players that were around back then place on it. Most of those players are now gone (and thus are no longer here to place value on this item) or have grown out of this mentality. No new-ish player will be able to tell you what the hell the Feast is (unless they went out of their way to learn about it), and most likely they won't even care unless they like a specific reward.
Even after you fully leave the game, even after the game itself is gone and the items are lost forever, you will have the memories to cherish. I've played a few games that are dead by now and I'm sure you have too. None of us brought any special items on our way out, and the days of other players looking at you in awe are long gone.

I know I'm not changing OP's mind or anyone who has been pushing back relentlessly about this. But the fact of the matter is that YoshiP announced this is something they're interested in bringing back for the greater public who has been requesting it for years, so it's time to make your peace with it. You're not winning this fight because the amount of people who want these items far outnumber you. I've also had to make my peace with things I heavily disliked about this game.

The item you own will still be unique, a replica is taking nothing away from you. I understand seeing it around will be upsetting, especially at first when everyone and their dog will get it and wear it everywhere, but you know you've got the real deal. Anyone checking your gear will know it too, because you won't have the "Replica" tag attached to your stuff... but at this point in the game, there won't be many players who will be able to understand the value this item used to have to you, unobtainable or not.
It is most likely the mounts will remain fully unique and special titles will still be unobtainable. We're likely mostly considering gear-related rewards, at least for now.

Know that those pushing back are fighting a lost battle; the fact that they've announced it means you've already lost.

[Voidmage]

Tell me you've never played MMOs before FFXIV without telling me.

The solution to this is to create brand new sets, or carrots, if you will. Not recycle old ones that people worked hard to get under the promise of them being exclusive and limited-time availability only.

First you should work on your attitude instead of using that old dismissive saying.

Second, there are two problems with that notion.
The first ist that this, for an inflationary timeframe, creates an imbalance between old and new players in the quantity of available items alone.
The other is that we have 2025. Those systems may have worked in the day of old where MMOs were the big thing on the market.
Nowadays you don't want to say to new players "tough luck".

[kumikosi]

Tell me any other items besides this pvp set, legacy stuff, and pre-order bonuses that aren't obtainable anymore. Tell me this huge long list. By your logic, they need to bring belts back ASAP to stop this hemmorhaging!

These pvp sets/mounts*. Multiple. Fixed that for you. I never said the length of the list. Just that FOMO is stupid and a predatory tactic. But you did make a cool one for me. Yeah. Those should all be available to people still to get. Because FOMO is stupid.

[moodud]

The whole point is SE broke the promise that the gear sets are limited for feast winners and unobtainable anywhere. They lied. Being upset is totally legit. That’s all.

[Shipp]

First you should work on your attitude instead of using that old dismissive saying.

Second, there are two problems with that notion.
The first ist that this, for an inflationary timeframe, creates an imbalance between old and new players in the quantity of available items alone.
The other is that we have 2025. Those systems may have worked in the day of old where MMOs were the big thing on the market.
Nowadays you don't want to say to new players "tough luck".

First, don't make people feel uncomfortable by posting attacks like this as if you are their parent, please. It's against the ToS, if you didn't realize.

Second, it doesn't create an imbalance. Just like life, there are limited time exclusives. Nobody needs these items to progress. They are purely cosmetic. It upsets no game balance whatsoever.

Those systems worked back then and they still work to this day. If they did not, you would not see it still happen in life in general.

If new players are going to pass on this game because of the tiny miniscule list of unobtainables, then yeah, "tough luck" isn't exactly what I'd say, but it's pretty close to the same sentiment.

These pvp sets/mounts*. Multiple. Fixed that for you. I never said the length of the list. Just that FOMO is stupid and a predatory tactic. But you did make a cool one for me. Yeah. Those should all be available to people still to get. Because FOMO is stupid.

How many?

Still haven't come up with that list.

The whole point is SE broke the promise that the gear sets are limited for feast winners and unobtainable anywhere. They lied. Being upset is totally legit. That’s all.

This is ultimately what I am upset about. As I've said, I don't even have the sets. Going back on their word on this, this AF restrictions, and a host of other things means their word means nothing.

[kumikosi]

First, don't make people feel uncomfortable by posting attacks like this as if you are their parent, please. It's against the ToS, if you didn't realize.

Dangit. We fell for the bait. That one made it obvious. Well. Was fun for a bit. Everyone enjoy your feast armor when it becomes available/however it becomes available.

[Voidmage]

First, don't make people feel uncomfortable by posting attacks like this as if you are their parent, please. It's against the ToS, if you didn't realize.

Second, it doesn't create an imbalance. Just like life, there are limited time exclusives. Nobody needs these items to progress. They are purely cosmetic. It upsets no game balance whatsoever.

Those systems worked back then and they still work to this day. If they did not, you would not see it still happen in life in general.

If new players are going to pass on this game because of the tiny miniscule list of unobtainables, then yeah, "tough luck" isn't exactly what I'd say, but it's pretty close to the same sentiment.

Ok, I know now what you are doing here.
On to the blacklist you go.
"Posting an attack".

Do what you want.

[Kohashi]

Tell me you've never played MMOs before FFXIV without telling me.

The solution to this is to create brand new sets, or carrots, if you will. Not recycle old ones that people worked hard to get under the promise of them being exclusive and limited-time availability only.

How to say you have 0 market/economy sense without saying it.

NOBODY!!! cares about what happened 10 years ago, because nobody lives in the past or gets to eat/ progress/advance forward by reminiscing about the past. The vast majority of players who used to play back then aren't even around anymore, aren't engaged in the game in a meaningful way, and aren't creating anything positive to drive the community forward.

It makes all the sense in the world to bring back old sets that could potentially drive engagement of obtaining them, also bringing back some of those old players that really wanted the particular set but missed out on it.

From a business standpoint is the correct way forward. Not the mention that a game needs to adapt to the new trends and what current and concurrent players want, because they support and allow the company to also push forward. In short, players win, SE wins too.

[Shipp]

How to say you have 0 market/economy sense without saying it.

NOBODY!!! cares about what happened 10 years ago, because nobody lives in the past or gets to eat/ progress/advance forward by reminiscing about the past. The vast majority of players who used to play back then aren't even around anymore, aren't engaged in the game in a meaningful way, and aren't creating anything positive to drive the community forward.

It makes all the sense in the world to bring back old sets that could potentially drive engagement of obtaining them, also bringing back some of those old players that really wanted the particular set but missed out on it.

From a business standpoint is the correct way forward. Not the mention that a game needs to adapt to the new trends and what current and concurrent players want, because they support and allow the company to also push forward. In short, players win, SE wins too.

I'm wondering where your sources are. How are you figuring that most people from back then don't play anymore outside of personal anecdotes? I quit for 8 years at the end of HW and just came back to the game due to a friend that has played since ARR that I originally brought over from WoW. All of my 2.0 friends still play, in fact. I was in the beta for 1.0, played 1.0. Played 1.23. Am legacy and now working my way through ShB, Endwalker, and then DT to get back up to speed.

If limited times exclusives make 0 market/economy sense, then you should probably have a word with all these billion dollar corporations that do that very thing all the time.

[Kohashi]

I'm wondering where your sources are. How are you figuring that most people from back then don't play anymore outside of personal anecdotes? I quit for 8 years at the end of HW and just came back to the game due to a friend that has played since ARR that I originally brought over from WoW. All of my 2.0 friends still play, in fact. I was in the beta for 1.0, played 1.0. Played 1.23. Am legacy and now working my way through ShB, Endwalker, and then DT to get back up to speed.

If limited times exclusives make 0 market/economy sense, then you should probably have a word with all these billion dollar corporations that do that very thing all the time.

You don't get to represent all of the players from back then. You are an outlier, not the norm, and you only represent one, not multiple people. Sure, some people still play after 12 years, but those are very far and in between.

As for the forced scarcity, you already got the answer from a previous person. It's a Dark Pattern used by games that don't even have long-term plans but want to maximize short-term profits. (read as milk/take advantage of the gullible and poor impulse control people)

The market is full of those, but when you have 1 main game that was and still is the ONLY reason you aren't bankrupt and also keeps you afloat while allowing you to explore new projects and ideas, you get to a point where you have to wake up and ensure that it will continue to do so.
I can say, FF14 is still lagging severely behind, while competition is creeping behind them, but at least they are starting to take steps in the right direction.