Modders did it to themselves

[TeresaFortell]

In short: Wanna use mods? Don't be a fucking dumbass about it.

Rules are the rules. Otherwise, freaking anarchy over here.

Thing is, devs are stuck in the middle. Don’t enforce TOS, then that would open a floodgate to what is permissible. Enforce it too much, then people would call them heartless. It’s like being a referee during a fight at a game - ignore it and chaos erupts, blow the whistle and everyone thinks you hate fun.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

[Oizen]

This seems disingenuous to me. You even ignored the part about laws, and people sharing their private screenshots publicly on social media.

Fair, but to elaborate the laws part I get and I don't even have issue with, I also get the Optics part, googling FFXIV and coming up with a porn game is very strange.

I take issue solely with the Mogstation/Cost aspect. It feels like they more or less told us the game shuts down without the Mogstation, at least it feels heavily implied.
In his words this causes "damage to the services they provide".

And I even can agree with this and see his point, but then my brain immediately remembers this is the man who greenlit Dawntrail. Something that has caused far more damage to the services they provide than this drama, thats all.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

you are making a bold assumption. Until they flatout say it was the case we have to assume there is still more. because if that was the case, they would do a c&d with nexusmods because you can do the same thing without the use of third party tools. Its more and likely, mogstore taking a hit in revenue and people just being dumb and posting and sharing on social media on them wearing said mod mogsttore items without paying for it. The game itself doesn't provide mods, and any half ass corp attorney can fight and win against. SE wouldn't worry about having Steam pull it off.

If anything this would be a case against those that provided the plug in and base program that does it. This was to serve as warning to those that make mods and to those that use them. To stop circumventing the mogshop and stop for them to stop being dumb and posting it everywhere about the mods they use. Its going to a repeat of TOP and DSR again where people start reporting the slightest visual of a third party program.

Lol where's the assumption it's in the statement along with many other reasons

[Yumarox]

The demands seem to be pretty clear.

1. Do not get around things rewarded for achievements in the game, and honestly, it's really fair. FF14 as a community might be nice to sprouts, but it is terrible for rewarding and encouraging people who achieve high level or "Hardcore" content. More often than not, you learn about the insecurities people have quickly.

2. Do not get around the cash shop items since people pay good money for those things, and that is also fair. Stop having your cake and eating it, too.

3. Do not post the things that are NSFW publicly on social media; this is also fair, and lots of content creators are guilty of passing around the freakshow to the normies.

[MsMisato]

Lol where's the assumption it's in the statement along with many other reasons

he made no mention of UK laws, a blanket law statement does not equate to the UK. Point out exactly where he said the action was on UK Law inconjuction with everything else. Even in the list before he started he said its theoretical examples. You can infer it was UK law but until they say otherwise its an assumption no matter how much you want it to be true. There are laws of this sort in other countries where the game is sold and those laws been around well before this. The bottom line is people still are going to goon their characters for those that goon, people are still going to post on their social media websites. You can take the tools away but honestly you don't need a third party tool to change out files. This is like back in the day .dat swapping in FFXI.


It's no secret FFXIV is not making the money like it did anymore and those earning were announced a few weeks ago. So it's easy to infer that people are definitely circumventing the shop and then you got people just getting access to the armors and such without clearing said content and that is pretty bad honestly. I think that's the biggest concern SE is mogstore.

As I said, its a warning to mod/plugin developers and mod users. Stop making mods to work around the cash shop and stop posting / streaming the game with third party mods enabled. Honestly, if they get caught after this, they need to be banned. But Im pretty sure we will be back in a year or two posting the same thing again lol

[Masekase_Hurricane]

he made no mention of UK laws, a blanket law statement does not equate to the UK. Point out exactly where he said the action was on UK Law inconjuction with everything else. Even in the list before he started he said its theoretical examples. You can infer it was UK law but until they say otherwise its an assumption no matter how much you want it to be true. There are laws of this sort in other countries where the game is sold and those laws been around well before this. The bottom line is people still are going to goon their characters for those that goon, people are still going to post on their social media websites. You can take the tools away but honestly you don't need a third party tool to change out files. This is like back in the day .dat swapping in FFXI.

I don't need to make an assumption when I can't even see a post on REDDIT that contains the 2B glam lol unless I enter my I.D But yes probably just a coincidence with it being added a few weeks ago.

lol we can say the same about you making an "assumption" about mogstation sales

But what we can see as 100% FACT is numbers have dropped.

[freshavocado]

I genuinely appreciate the official response. I have my issues with the game, but I still highly respect Yoshida as a developer, and our producer.

Reading this, and from the video interview with the Mare dev that someone else posted, I think both Yoshi-P and the dev regret what Syncshells became.

I also love that Yoshi has to encourage the TOS because of his position, but is not an idiot about mods, which I would definitely never use because they're illegal

In short: Wanna use mods? Don't be a fucking dumbass about it.

It was a really thoughtful response and he can see both sides. I truly appreciated it as well. Just think some ppl need to brush up on reading comprehension skills bc he said not to cherry pick and theyre still cherry picking

[s32ialx]

I will call this a win for modders. take that all you haters.

[MsMisato]

I don't need to make an assumption when I can't even see a post on REDDIT that contains the 2B glam lol unless I enter my I.D But yes probably just a coincidence with it being added a few weeks ago.

lol we can say the same about you making an "assumption" about mogstation sales

But what we can see as 100% FACT is numbers have dropped.

100% fact numbers have dropped. I just hope this kind of lights a fire under the devs. like they actually start focusing on putting out quality content and improving gameplay after this but the game sorely needs some tlc from the devs. I do hope they start looking in adding more customization options for characters. I was surprised to actually them but a draw distance for mobs and npcs last patch which was kind of nice so I got a little bit hope we may get something towards customization. Because if anything it shows modders will do what they need to keep themselves entertained for a subscription base game regardless if we agree with them or not.

[ZXN]

Yoshi-P's statement to me literally just reads like how the stance has always been: We know you use them just shut the fuck up about them, just with them actually making some of the lines in the sand more obvious. Yet I have seen some people already somehow genuinely come to the conclusion after reading this statement that Yoshi-P just gave them the green light to both freely use and freely talk about any/all mods in-game as long as they don't infringe on any of the points he made.

Reading comprehension and FF14 really don't mix for some people and this really is the situation that keeps on giving.