Modders did it to themselves

[Masekase_Hurricane]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...5eb456d2183251

Welp we got our official answer: Optics and they're mad people were wearing Mogstation glamour without paying for it.

I have a hunch their investors are breathing down their neck as to why their revenue is dropping so hard, so they're grasping at straws and Mare became the scapgoat.
Personally, if I was unhappy with the money my product was making, I'd alter my product into being one people want to stay subscribed to and keep playing. Mods definitely cost SE some money sure.
But I bet its pennies compared to the amount of lost money caused by their burnt good will and Post Endwalker - Dawntrail.

No they was mad at people SHARING the glamour that people hadnt earned/paid for etc. Also due to new UK laws. This is why they said share the article instead of cherry picking comments.

[Oizen]

No they was mad at people SHARING the glamour that people hadnt earned/paid for etc. Also due to new UK laws. This is why they said share the article instead of cherry picking comments.

Sure but if they think thats the reason Dawntrail lost so much revenue...lmao

Sure go ahead and chase it, delete the mods I don't care.
You're not getting those sales you used to have, and this reason they decided to fixate on isn't why.

[DiaDeem]

I genuinely appreciate the official response. I have my issues with the game, but I still highly respect Yoshida as a developer, and our producer.

Reading this, and from the video interview with the Mare dev that someone else posted, I think both Yoshi-P and the dev regret what Syncshells became.

I also love that Yoshi has to encourage the TOS because of his position, but is not an idiot about mods, which I would definitely never use because they're illegal

In short: Wanna use mods? Don't be a fucking dumbass about it.

[MsMisato]

No they was mad at people SHARING the glamour that people hadnt earned/paid for etc. Also due to new UK laws. This is why they said share the article instead of cherry picking comments.

you are making a bold assumption. Until they flatout say it was the case we have to assume there is still more. because if that was the case, they would do a c&d with nexusmods because you can do the same thing without the use of third party tools. Its more and likely, mogstore taking a hit in revenue and people just being dumb and posting and sharing on social media on them wearing said mod mogsttore items without paying for it. The game itself doesn't provide mods, and any half ass corp attorney can fight and win against. SE wouldn't worry about having Steam pull it off.

If anything this would be a case against those that provided the plug in and base program that does it. This was to serve as warning to those that make mods and to those that use them. To stop circumventing the mogshop and stop for them to stop being dumb and posting it everywhere about the mods they use. Its going to a repeat of TOP and DSR again where people start reporting the slightest visual of a third party program.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

you are making a bold assumption. Until they flatout say it was the case we have to assume there is still more. because if that was the case, they would do a c&d with nexusmods because you can do the same thing without the use of third party tools. Its more and likely, mogstore taking a hit in revenue and people just being dumb and posting and sharing on social media on them wearing said mod mogsttore items without paying for it. The game itself doesn't provide mods, and any half ass corp attorney can fight and win against. SE wouldn't worry about having Steam pull it off.

If anything this would be a case against those that provided the plug in and base program that does it. This was to serve as warning to those that make mods and to those that use them. To stop circumventing the mogshop and stop for them to stop being dumb and posting it everywhere about the mods they use. Its going to a repeat of TOP and DSR again where people start reporting the slightest visual of a third party program.

Lol where's the assumption it's in the statement along with many other reasons

[Rithy255]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...5eb456d2183251

Welp we got our official answer: Optics and they're mad people were wearing Mogstation glamour without paying for it.

I have a hunch their investors are breathing down their neck as to why their revenue is dropping so hard, so they're grasping at straws and Mare became the scapgoat.
Personally, if I was unhappy with the money my product was making, I'd alter my product into being one people want to stay subscribed to and keep playing. Mods definitely cost SE some money sure.
But I bet its pennies compared to the amount of lost money caused by their burnt good will and Post Endwalker - Dawntrail.

I wonder if that means if someone made a similar mod but blocked out people seeing cash shop gear and ultimate raid weapons that in theory they'd have no problem with it. I find it pretty odd that they're blaming it for lack of money coming in, when if anything this will likely hurt subscriptions which will effect them even more down the line.

frankly the reason why the cash shop isn't doing as well is because theirs not been much of good quality from my perspective, the raid weapons doesn't really make much sense to me either. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't this thing for friends only? why would anyone care that they can see a friend with a fake ultimate weapon.

Lastly the censorship getting stricter would make sense if this changed anything at all... like no this will not prevent that sort of stuff.

[Its_Kazzy_D]

Lastly the censorship getting stricter would make sense if this changed anything at all... like no this will not prevent that sort of stuff.

Sorry for a double post, but Square has a duty as the owner of the FFXIV to do their best to ensure that the game isn't being used to distribute 18+ material--even if that material isn't from Square themselves. Go complain to several governments if you have an issue with that; it's an issue far out of Square's hands. Unless you want them to go the route of some corn sites and just stop allowing access to the game in certain regions?

[Rithy255]

Sorry for a double post, but Square has a duty as the owner of the FFXIV to do their best to ensure that the game isn't being used to distribute 18+ material--even if that material isn't from Square themselves. Go complain to several governments if you have an issue with that; it's an issue far out of Square's hands. Unless you want them to go the route of some corn sites and just stop allowing access to the game in certain regions?

I mean I don't care all too much about that I think these new laws are dumb themselves, my point was that taking down that tool doesn't really change anything surrounding that sort of thing from happening (I think the example was like images on social media? frankly your still going to see that).

I can understand why they'd not want those sort of things being accessible due to stricter regulations around the world but this doesn't do a lot to even prevent that in the first place was my main issue (not the morality of it nor my personal beliefs).

[Aidorouge]

frankly the reason why the cash shop isn't doing as well is because theirs not been much of good quality from my perspective

I know I certainly came to regret buying anything out of the mogstation when I realized the Warden's Set cut off my tail.

"Should have read the fine print" doesn't change the fact that glamour has gotten so bad that it routinely removes my racial features, and any items that do this are not worth obtaining in-game or buying.
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Lastly the censorship getting stricter would make sense if this changed anything at all... like no this will not prevent that sort of stuff.

It's worse than that, if Sqaure-Enix is caving to censorship so readily, it won't be long before their own in-game content becomes subject of outrage. If people were to start spamming the 2B pants and Beeknees all over social media instead of modded stuff, how long until the nannies come back complaining about that too?

Square-Enix didn't get the prudes off their back, they flung the door wide open for them to come after something else.
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Imagine having a 12 yo begging you as the parent to allow them yo play FF14. You google the game and come across these porn pics. Would in all good conscience and common sense you really let your kid play this game?
I definitely wouldn't.

You're right, absolutely no child should be playing this smutty game filled with half-naked catgirls ...these are all in-game and not-modded items by the way. So if we're really going to play puritan police here, the game ITS SELF is going to draw unwanted attention over censorship without even needing Mare to do any damage.

I don't think people here are understanding that Square-Enix has now set a precedent, and a lot more stuff, both mods and in-game, will need to be purged to abide by this new standard of "child friendly".

[Its_Kazzy_D]

I know I certainly came to regret buying anything out of the mogstation when I realized the Warden's Set cut off my tail.

"Should have read the fine print" doesn't change the fact that glamour has gotten so bad that it routinely removes my racial features, and any items that do this are not worth obtaining in-game or buying.
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It's worse than that, if Sqaure-Enix is caving to censorship so readily, it won't be long before their own in-game content becomes subject of outrage. If people were to start spamming the 2B pants and Beeknees all over social media instead of modded stuff, how long until the nannies come back complaining about that too?

Square-Enix didn't get the prudes off their back, they flung the door wide open for them to come after something else.
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You're right, absolutely no child should be playing this smutty game filled with half-naked catgirls ...these are all in-game and not-modded items by the way. So if we're really going to play puritan police here, the game ITS SELF is going to draw unwanted attention over censorship without even needing Mare to do any damage.

I don't think people here are understanding that Square-Enix has now set a precedent, and a lot more stuff, both mods and in-game, will need to be purged to abide by this new standard of "child friendly".

I'm sorry, but you're being deliberately obtuse here. 18+ conent and outfits showing skin aren't the same thing. The laws referred to in the statement are explicitly going for the former and not the latter. As I've stated before, unless you want Square to start restricting access to FF14 in certain states, countries, etc they have to crack down if it's becoming "known" that their game is being used to distribute 18+ material without age checks being implemented, even if it's exclusively on the side of modders.