Modders did it to themselves

[Kahnha]

Hopefully going forward we'll have personal accountability that is enforced you get reported for having your Mare code in you adventure plate acc warning again 3 day suspension until it is a perma ban.

you want to advertise your weird ERP club in public shout chat just like the gil bots perma ban.

this would have cleared the issue on the outset if word got out that these people openly breaking TOS were getting punished for it while people that were not openly doing it were fine there would have been no fallout to begin with..

but IDK I feel like the issue will still go on the people in our community are not the brightest screwdrivers in the drawer it's why the issue had such fallout in the 1st place.

[Aniise]

I will call this a win for modders. take that all you haters.

His statement was written as if he was addressing 4 year olds and you still didn't get it.

[Andras63]

you would be surprised what people did before that third party tool came along with the push up, squat emotes. but as someone said in game, its mostly for clout, the updoots, upvotes, likes and such.

This was as bad when adventure plates became a thing. people posing in highly sexual suggestive ways lol.

Well, if you can't control your reason or sexual desire, you should stop playing games and go see a psychiatrist.(´Д｀；)

[Kaurhz]

I appreciate the desire for walking on eggshells, and the perspective of "I'm a gamer first and foremost". But the stance is not really tenable at all.

This update kind of seems like a nothing burger, aside from reinforcing their stance of arbitrary moderation of third party tools. Which is why it's effectively going to be 'nothing has changed', in a few weeks or months there will be something else which succeeds that which was C&D'd, and then it'll be square one again.

[PactCommander]

To link Yoshis statement only to players rather modding online store-only customs than actually purchasing them, hence SQEX losing money falls way you short imo.

I rather think this is the real reason behind cracking down on Mare
"Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked. If this presentation is displayed only on the user's screen, that might fall into the category of personal use and responsibility. (Bear in mind that this is my personal interpretation, and not a discussion of whether that behavior is right or wrong.) However, if the user posts a screenshot of their naked character publicly on social media, FFXIV itself may be subject to legal measures by regulators in certain countries.

Laws that regulate the content of video games grow stricter by the year. These laws are there to protect minors and for a variety of other reasons, but the fact remains that they are tangibly becoming stricter. We have a duty to provide our services in adherence to the laws of all countries where FFXIV is available, and if we are unable to do so, the distribution of our game can be prohibited. This is another example of damage dealt to our services.

Allow me to repeat myself when I say that I do not intend for these examples to be a censure of mod users or creators. I only wish to provide some tangible examples of how using certain mods can damage other players, FFXIV, and the services we provide, regardless of the mod's original intent."

Let's be real here, putting in a few tags in Google easily leads to pictures of ML'd male and female Miqote players being butt naked with explicitly showing their private parts. No age restrictions on these pics nor is any age verification necessary to find that.
Imagine having a 12 yo begging you as the parent to allow them yo play FF14. You google the game and come across these porn pics. Would in all good conscience and common sense you really let your kid play this game?
I definitely wouldn't.

Also in EU the DSA is now cracking down on all kinds of gaming platforms and social media
https://www.gamesmarket.global/busin...a75d98b6ded35c

SQEX definitely can't afford to have their game and money making machine shut down in the EU cause they turn a blind eye to some 200k Mare user's and a bunch of idiots who -for the love of god- can't keep their porn-loving intentions to themselves and rather flood social media with this degenerated bs.

Do what you want in private or with equal friends but don't promote it outside the game and be the root for legal battles between EU regulators and SQEX.
IF the game has to shut down in EU due to that also the Mare lovers across the board will be in for a rough ride. Or would you pay a monthly sub of -let's say $50- to compensate the loss of earnings from EU players?
I don't think so.

[xbahax92]

I will call this a win for modders. take that all you haters.

A win? It's a wakeup call to stop being an effing clown. Some players get temporary bans for having Mare in their info search.
People already advocate new mare openly in chats and acting butthurt cause SE took their favorite toy away.
If anything, this is some bad news. They will crack down anything if the community doesn't learn to shut the fuck up.
Gotta educate people man, what the fuck.

[Arrius]

His statement was written as if he was addressing 4 year olds and you still didn't get it.

It's pretty hilarious, even the japanese players think it's a very polite, but sort of a explanation on a level of a child.

But this is probably the only way the western players can even remotely understand it.

[Aniise]

It's pretty hilarious, even the japanese players think it's a very polite, but sort of a explanation on a level of a child.

But this is probably the only way the western players can even remotely understand it.

Correct. And as you can see by the post up above, even this didn't help.
Some people are a lost cause.

[Nyastra]

It's pretty hilarious, even the japanese players think it's a very polite, but sort of a explanation on a level of a child.

But this is probably the only way the western players can even remotely understand it.

And yet, some still miss the mark.

[Clerith]

Imagine having a 12 yo begging you as the parent to allow them yo play FF14. You google the game and come across these porn pics. Would in all good conscience and common sense you really let your kid play this game?
I definitely wouldn't.

Exactly. Your whole post was good.
I'm just referring to this part in the context of an earlier post, which stated that most players are over 18 anyway.
I mean, just because the game primarily appeals to adult players is no excuse for it being unsafe for minors if they are legally allowed to play it.

And it's also just plain stupid to excuse explicit mods by saying that even S.E. has included erotic items and suggestive emotes in the game.
Just because we have a few ways to express ourselves more privately (like getting married in-game) doesn't mean we should abandon common sense.

Sure, parents should show interest in what their children are playing. But if a game is rated 12+, they shouldn't be forced to constantly monitor it.
ERP clubs are openly advertised. Upon entry, you're asked if you have Discord and Mare. Things have gotten completely out of control.

The game has a heartwarming TV series about a boy / young adult playing FF14 with his dad and how it improved their relationship.
That's the FF14 image we should support - also for the sake of getting new players.
Yet I read so many comments here that deflect and argue just to make their in-game ERP addiction seem more justified. It's disgusting.