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  1. #131
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    Oizen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    No they was mad at people SHARING the glamour that people hadnt earned/paid for etc. Also due to new UK laws. This is why they said share the article instead of cherry picking comments.
    Sure but if they think thats the reason Dawntrail lost so much revenue...lmao

    Sure go ahead and chase it, delete the mods I don't care.
    You're not getting those sales you used to have, and this reason they decided to fixate on isn't why.
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  2. #132
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    I genuinely appreciate the official response. I have my issues with the game, but I still highly respect Yoshida as a developer, and our producer.

    Reading this, and from the video interview with the Mare dev that someone else posted, I think both Yoshi-P and the dev regret what Syncshells became.

    I also love that Yoshi has to encourage the TOS because of his position, but is not an idiot about mods, which I would definitely never use because they're illegal

    In short: Wanna use mods? Don't be a fucking dumbass about it.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 08-28-2025 at 01:51 PM.

  3. #133
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...5eb456d2183251

    Welp we got our official answer: Optics and they're mad people were wearing Mogstation glamour without paying for it.

    I have a hunch their investors are breathing down their neck as to why their revenue is dropping so hard, so they're grasping at straws and Mare became the scapgoat.
    Personally, if I was unhappy with the money my product was making, I'd alter my product into being one people want to stay subscribed to and keep playing. Mods definitely cost SE some money sure.
    But I bet its pennies compared to the amount of lost money caused by their burnt good will and Post Endwalker - Dawntrail.
    I wonder if that means if someone made a similar mod but blocked out people seeing cash shop gear and ultimate raid weapons that in theory they'd have no problem with it. I find it pretty odd that they're blaming it for lack of money coming in, when if anything this will likely hurt subscriptions which will effect them even more down the line.

    frankly the reason why the cash shop isn't doing as well is because theirs not been much of good quality from my perspective, the raid weapons doesn't really make much sense to me either. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't this thing for friends only? why would anyone care that they can see a friend with a fake ultimate weapon.

    Lastly the censorship getting stricter would make sense if this changed anything at all... like no this will not prevent that sort of stuff.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...5eb456d2183251Welp we got our official answer: Optics and they're mad people were wearing Mogstation glamour without paying for it.
    This seems disingenuous to me. You even ignored the part about laws, and people sharing their private screenshots publicly on social media.
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  5. #135
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    It's like no one read it, and is blaming cash shop.

    It's just the same as it's been for years. Quit posting about them, quit sharing pictures of them all over the place, etc etc.
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  6. #136
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    People seem to be hyperfixiating on the mogstation aspect when he listed like 3 other reasons as well.

    I think his response was a good one. Concise and explained things well without attack anyone. The mentions of laws is also a big role in it as well, as he stated; not just in the UK, but many states in the US as well have similar laws.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Lastly the censorship getting stricter would make sense if this changed anything at all... like no this will not prevent that sort of stuff.
    Sorry for a double post, but Square has a duty as the owner of the FFXIV to do their best to ensure that the game isn't being used to distribute 18+ material--even if that material isn't from Square themselves. Go complain to several governments if you have an issue with that; it's an issue far out of Square's hands. Unless you want them to go the route of some corn sites and just stop allowing access to the game in certain regions?
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    No they was mad at people SHARING the glamour that people hadnt earned/paid for etc. Also due to new UK laws. This is why they said share the article instead of cherry picking comments.
    you are making a bold assumption. Until they flatout say it was the case we have to assume there is still more. because if that was the case, they would do a c&d with nexusmods because you can do the same thing without the use of third party tools. Its more and likely, mogstore taking a hit in revenue and people just being dumb and posting and sharing on social media on them wearing said mod mogsttore items without paying for it. The game itself doesn't provide mods, and any half ass corp attorney can fight and win against. SE wouldn't worry about having Steam pull it off.

    If anything this would be a case against those that provided the plug in and base program that does it. This was to serve as warning to those that make mods and to those that use them. To stop circumventing the mogshop and stop for them to stop being dumb and posting it everywhere about the mods they use. Its going to a repeat of TOP and DSR again where people start reporting the slightest visual of a third party program.
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  9. #139
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    I think it was more about the account ID linking and sharing thing, which was a big fucking issue we all, rightly, freaked out on SE about being used to trace and stalk players in another mod tools and that SE were dragging their feet on correcting.

    But no one can stop talking about the gooners or cash glams long enough to talk about that being a likely factor as to why Mare was nuked.
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  10. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLolly View Post
    I think it was more about the account ID linking and sharing thing, which was a big fucking issue we all, rightly, freaked out on SE about being used to trace and stalk players in another mod tools and that SE were dragging their feet on correcting.

    But no one can stop talking about the gooners or cash glams long enough to talk about that being a likely factor as to why Mare was nuked.
    Which ironically is the one thing he didn't mention in the announcement since he didn't want to name drop any specific mod. :x
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