Modders did it to themselves

[Oizen]

This seems disingenuous to me. You even ignored the part about laws, and people sharing their private screenshots publicly on social media.

Fair, but to elaborate the laws part I get and I don't even have issue with, I also get the Optics part, googling FFXIV and coming up with a porn game is very strange.

I take issue solely with the Mogstation/Cost aspect. It feels like they more or less told us the game shuts down without the Mogstation, at least it feels heavily implied.
In his words this causes "damage to the services they provide".

And I even can agree with this and see his point, but then my brain immediately remembers this is the man who greenlit Dawntrail. Something that has caused far more damage to the services they provide than this drama, thats all.

[Yumarox]

The demands seem to be pretty clear.

1. Do not get around things rewarded for achievements in the game, and honestly, it's really fair. FF14 as a community might be nice to sprouts, but it is terrible for rewarding and encouraging people who achieve high level or "Hardcore" content. More often than not, you learn about the insecurities people have quickly.

2. Do not get around the cash shop items since people pay good money for those things, and that is also fair. Stop having your cake and eating it, too.

3. Do not post the things that are NSFW publicly on social media; this is also fair, and lots of content creators are guilty of passing around the freakshow to the normies.

[ZXN]

Yoshi-P's statement to me literally just reads like how the stance has always been: We know you use them just shut the fuck up about them, just with them actually making some of the lines in the sand more obvious. Yet I have seen some people already somehow genuinely come to the conclusion after reading this statement that Yoshi-P just gave them the green light to both freely use and freely talk about any/all mods in-game as long as they don't infringe on any of the points he made.

Reading comprehension and FF14 really don't mix for some people and this really is the situation that keeps on giving.

[MsMisato]

Lol where's the assumption it's in the statement along with many other reasons

he made no mention of UK laws, a blanket law statement does not equate to the UK. Point out exactly where he said the action was on UK Law inconjuction with everything else. Even in the list before he started he said its theoretical examples. You can infer it was UK law but until they say otherwise its an assumption no matter how much you want it to be true. There are laws of this sort in other countries where the game is sold and those laws been around well before this. The bottom line is people still are going to goon their characters for those that goon, people are still going to post on their social media websites. You can take the tools away but honestly you don't need a third party tool to change out files. This is like back in the day .dat swapping in FFXI.


It's no secret FFXIV is not making the money like it did anymore and those earning were announced a few weeks ago. So it's easy to infer that people are definitely circumventing the shop and then you got people just getting access to the armors and such without clearing said content and that is pretty bad honestly. I think that's the biggest concern SE is mogstore.

As I said, its a warning to mod/plugin developers and mod users. Stop making mods to work around the cash shop and stop posting / streaming the game with third party mods enabled. Honestly, if they get caught after this, they need to be banned. But Im pretty sure we will be back in a year or two posting the same thing again lol

[Masekase_Hurricane]

he made no mention of UK laws, a blanket law statement does not equate to the UK. Point out exactly where he said the action was on UK Law inconjuction with everything else. Even in the list before he started he said its theoretical examples. You can infer it was UK law but until they say otherwise its an assumption no matter how much you want it to be true. There are laws of this sort in other countries where the game is sold and those laws been around well before this. The bottom line is people still are going to goon their characters for those that goon, people are still going to post on their social media websites. You can take the tools away but honestly you don't need a third party tool to change out files. This is like back in the day .dat swapping in FFXI.

I don't need to make an assumption when I can't even see a post on REDDIT that contains the 2B glam lol unless I enter my I.D But yes probably just a coincidence with it being added a few weeks ago.

lol we can say the same about you making an "assumption" about mogstation sales

But what we can see as 100% FACT is numbers have dropped.

[MsMisato]

I don't need to make an assumption when I can't even see a post on REDDIT that contains the 2B glam lol unless I enter my I.D But yes probably just a coincidence with it being added a few weeks ago.

lol we can say the same about you making an "assumption" about mogstation sales

But what we can see as 100% FACT is numbers have dropped.

100% fact numbers have dropped. I just hope this kind of lights a fire under the devs. like they actually start focusing on putting out quality content and improving gameplay after this but the game sorely needs some tlc from the devs. I do hope they start looking in adding more customization options for characters. I was surprised to actually them but a draw distance for mobs and npcs last patch which was kind of nice so I got a little bit hope we may get something towards customization. Because if anything it shows modders will do what they need to keep themselves entertained for a subscription base game regardless if we agree with them or not.

[freshavocado]

I genuinely appreciate the official response. I have my issues with the game, but I still highly respect Yoshida as a developer, and our producer.

Reading this, and from the video interview with the Mare dev that someone else posted, I think both Yoshi-P and the dev regret what Syncshells became.

I also love that Yoshi has to encourage the TOS because of his position, but is not an idiot about mods, which I would definitely never use because they're illegal

In short: Wanna use mods? Don't be a fucking dumbass about it.

It was a really thoughtful response and he can see both sides. I truly appreciated it as well. Just think some ppl need to brush up on reading comprehension skills bc he said not to cherry pick and theyre still cherry picking

[s32ialx]

I will call this a win for modders. take that all you haters.

[xbahax92]

I will call this a win for modders. take that all you haters.

A win? It's a wakeup call to stop being an effing clown. Some players get temporary bans for having Mare in their info search.
People already advocate new mare openly in chats and acting butthurt cause SE took their favorite toy away.
If anything, this is some bad news. They will crack down anything if the community doesn't learn to shut the fuck up.
Gotta educate people man, what the fuck.

[Kahnha]

Hopefully going forward we'll have personal accountability that is enforced you get reported for having your Mare code in you adventure plate acc warning again 3 day suspension until it is a perma ban.

you want to advertise your weird ERP club in public shout chat just like the gil bots perma ban.

this would have cleared the issue on the outset if word got out that these people openly breaking TOS were getting punished for it while people that were not openly doing it were fine there would have been no fallout to begin with..

but IDK I feel like the issue will still go on the people in our community are not the brightest screwdrivers in the drawer it's why the issue had such fallout in the 1st place.