Modders did it to themselves

[DynnDiablos]

Personally, I hope Square Enix nukes it ALL. Put in third-party tool checkers, ban all mods and watch the gooners fall to their knees in screams of despair. I will be cackling for days.

[Nyastra]

Personally, I hope Square Enix nukes it ALL. Put in third-party tool checkers, ban all mods and watch the gooners fall to their knees in screams of despair. I will be cackling for days.

As the friend of some of these people, I hope it happens. Because they forgot the one rule above all. Keep it to yourself.

[Boblawblah]

As the friend of some of these people, I hope it happens. Because they forgot the one rule above all. Keep it to yourself.

and if the people that hate these kind of mods purposely talk about it? What then?

[BlisteringFrost]

and if the people that hate these kind of mods purposely talk about it? What then?

Oh well. Get over it. If they don't get caught using anything themselves they're in the okay to complain about addons. TOS just says you can not advertise them or use them (or admit to using them).

First rule of Fight Club is the best anyone can do. Yoshi himself said they won't hunt down addons as long as they aren't given a reason to.

[Nyastra]

and if the people that hate these kind of mods purposely talk about it? What then?

It’s really not that deep. SE has always known about mods—it’s never been a secret. The issue came from people going on a public rampage showing them off everywhere, way too loudly and too often. If it had stayed subtle and within the circle, a few haters speaking out wouldn’t have been enough to make it blow up. We’ve seen the same thing happen before. And at the end of the day, SE has a public image and legal responsibility to uphold. If something gets too loud and too visible, they don’t have the luxury of pretending not to notice.

[MsMisato]

It’s really not that deep. SE has always known about mods—it’s never been a secret. The issue came from people going on a public rampage showing them off everywhere, way too loudly and too often. If it had stayed subtle and within the circle, a few haters speaking out wouldn’t have been enough to make it blow up. We’ve seen the same thing happen before. And at the end of the day, SE has a public image and legal responsibility to uphold. If something gets too loud and too visible, they don’t have the luxury of pretending not to notice.

true, but there are people here that go looking for these mods acting like they're popo. its just sad, because they're typical karens honestly. as for the luxury of pretending of not to notice for SE. they had many opportunities to squash it, even during the world first DSR and the previous world first clear debacle of the teams using third party tools to get clears publicly, they chose to ignore it at that point and turned blind eye to said tools. If players have to use to tool play the combat aspect of the game to give an edge or make it easier then there is an issue SE is failing to address and that's on them.

Using Mare to make an example because people want to go "owo daddy spank me im your puppy grr grr" then by all means have at it,not one advantage is given in game play. Just because its not your thing doesn't mean it not someone else. Some people use it for upscales of vanilla armors, others want more variety in colors and so on which I agree with the variety in colors bit because honestly, we should have more than 2 channels for colors on armor and even games that are less resource intensive has better customization options on a mobile device. People have been asking for the basic of things in this game for the past 10 years that should been here to begin with.

You all are more worried about what someone is seeing on their end of the screen in their room/house then people tyring to gain an advantage with tools...

[Nyastra]

true, but there are people here that go looking for these mods acting like they're popo. its just sad, because they're typical karens honestly. as for the luxury of pretending of not to notice for SE. they had many opportunities to squash it, even during the world first DSR and the previous world first clear debacle of the teams using third party tools to get clears publicly, they chose to ignore it at that point and turned blind eye to said tools. If players have to use to tool play the combat aspect of the game to give an edge or make it easier then there is an issue SE is failing to address and that's on them.

Using Mare to make an example because people want to go "owo daddy spank me im your puppy grr grr" then by all means have at it,not one advantage is given in game play. Just because its not your thing doesn't mean it not someone else. Some people use it for upscales of vanilla armors, others want more variety in colors and so on which I agree with the variety in colors bit because honestly, we should have more than 2 channels for colors on armor and even games that are less resource intensive has better customization options on a mobile device. People have been asking for the basic of things in this game for the past 10 years that should been here to begin with.

You all are more worried about what someone is seeing on their end of the screen in their room/house then people tyring to gain an advantage with tools...

I completely get your point, and I agree — SE should absolutely address cheating and advantage-granting tools. The main distinction is just that visual/aesthetic mods, even NSFW ones, don’t actually impact gameplay. The concern there is how it reflects on SE’s public image. Cheating in games happens — even on a large scale — and while it’s a problem that SE should address, it doesn’t really reflect on Square Enix itself. The issue lies with the individuals choosing to cheat. Visual mods, especially NSFW ones, are different because their visibility does affect SE’s public image, which is why the reaction is often stronger there.

I, for one, don’t care if someone wants tig bitties or whatever, but there’s still a certain level of personal responsibility when using these mods in public spaces or on platforms where others can see them.

[Clerith]

S.E. is losing players no matter what direction they take with mods and plugins.
If they crack down more strictly on third-party mods, plugins, and launchers, many players will look for other games where modding isn't a major problem.
And it's not just about visual aspects — some launchers also help with connectivity.
On the other hand, inaction also significantly damages the reputation/sales, while also making the game very unsafe for minors.


To elaborate on it;
A YouTuber recently showed what the game looked like with Mare and Synchshells.
And it's just as Mare's creator admitted: "A lot of it is absolutely disgusting and problematic — to the point where he openly said he's lost some faith in humanity"—
and that can absolutely ruin the fun and perspective on the game for many.

It also showed, that neither the players' appearances nor their emotes can be trusted to be what you see, and that's just a very bad feeling/realization to have.
You're constantly questioning what you're seeing and don't want to sit next to characters you don't know.
And that, in turn, destroys the immersion enormously.

And not only that, but players can also "abuse" other players' characters and their minions and post screenshots of their actions on Discord.
Or you might be invited to an in-game wedding and later find out that everyone except you was naked.
And let's not pretend that only Rohblox has a problem with groomers/stalkers.
18+ clubs are openly advertised. There is no age verification for these things, and the game is rated 12+ in my country.
This means that the game simply cannot be safely recommended to minors – which also leads to fewer players (of the good kind) and sales.

That aside, Mods also affect the store in more than just one way.
Many people will tell you, that they only purchased something because they saw a modified version of it.
However, the ability to change appearance and races at any time through mods also leads to a loss of sales.

Both approaches, in turn, lead to a loss of players and money.
But only one approach is morally correct (to me at least).
And if nothing changes, then the game should definitely be given an "18+" age rating in every country.

[Brightamethyst]

It’s really not that deep. SE has always known about mods—it’s never been a secret.

Right? In situations like this I always think about an interview I saw with one of the WoW devs. Talking about feedback and community trends and such, he said something along the lines of, "If 'everyone' knows about something, you can be sure that also includes the dev team."