Modders did it to themselves

[Clerith]

So I am not the only one who thought that sounded questionable xD

Not at all. It raised far too many red flags for me. XD
Good post, I can only agree.

[Kahnha]

I do not believe XIV is going to stop the gooners or the influx of porn around their game with their response.

yeah no point fighting them they did it with over watch, they did it with tellie tubbies, yugioh, pokemon and hell these people have done it to inanimate objects even truck-kun isn't safe!!! btw that's prolly an sfm animation so it is not even in the game from the preview's look of it :V

[Daralii]

I do not believe XIV is going to stop the gooners or the influx of porn around their game with their response.

What do you mean? Everyone listened when Blizzard tried to crack down on the creation of Overwatch porn.

[Asgon]

Tbh the internet should not censor itself because the EU decided what we could and could not see online maybe they should go the china route and wall their citizens off from the rest of the net so they don't have to worry about their kids (that are being abducted by groomer gangs) seeing boobas online.




People have made pron of mine craft so if you search for that you would also be put off from minecraft, street fighter, pokemon anything if it is on the internet there is unsavory content of it.

the internet is not and never has been a safe place for children, parents should be keenly aware of what their kids are looking at and be ready to protect them at all times the gov should have no place in that because it often does not work. xD

here in america the ESRB raiting for XIV is T for teen IIrc and like all ESRB ratings online interactions are not monitored square is not responsible for the content online best they could do is ban the people actively advertising and airing out bad behavior in he game's public areas. the common sense route.

you would make a good parent if you see pron in the game; easy don't let them play the game, doubly so if you do not plan to monitor them while they play.
Have your children play single player games or games without a means of communication try bopl battle that is a good game for children. :3

UK is not EU

[RedLolly]

It keeps coming up again and again how modders didn't understand that Mare was using the same type of ID tracking that the maligned stalker plug-ins were using.

Just because you consent to openly sharing your IDs doesn't make it magically safe. It's still a cyber security nightmare whether it was Mare or the the actual freaks that made the stalker mod using it.

And players made it abundantly clear that a mod that tracks player IDs was an absolute no. SE agreed! Now they're cracking down on mods, plug-ins, and other tools that track account and player IDs.

[TBerry]

Explain that to the officer, 'their character was over 18, we were just ERPing.' that won't fly if the person behind that character was under 18. IC =/= OOC? Yeah, have fun in court with that.

I do not live in the US and every single RPer I know is at least in their 20s. And I never said anything about ERP with them.
None of them have dubious characters.
You're trying to paint me as dubious.
Things run differently in the EU servers.

It doesn't matter anyway, because even if one of the characters I interacted with in casual RP in some venue was a minor, my previous character was married to another character for the past 2 years (3 in December, but we started '22), and we were very active. Plus for the longest time most RP was within the FC I was part of. We retired our characters just recently and dissolved the bond.

[Uzephi]

And I never said anything about ERP.

Reread what I quoted. Yes, sex is a part of life, but when you RP it, it would fall into ERP. You did bring it up, but apparently too obtuse on the subject to know what you're talking about.

[TBerry]

Reread what I quoted. Yes, sex is a part of life, but when you RP it, it would fall into ERP. You did bring it up, but apparently too obtuse on the subject to know what you're talking about.

I changed the post to clarify.
Also changed the previous one, because I realized why it was "dubious".
But as I said, character bonded for almost 3 years, ERP exclusively with that person.

[Aidorouge]

I'm sorry, but you're being deliberately obtuse here. 18+ conent and outfits showing skin aren't the same thing. The laws referred to in the statement are explicitly going for the former and not the latter. As I've stated before, unless you want Square to start restricting access to FF14 in certain states, countries, etc they have to crack down if it's becoming "known" that their game is being used to distribute 18+ material without age checks being implemented, even if it's exclusively on the side of modders.

The game is rated 12+ in my country. And we still distinguish between bikinis, sexually explicit references, and nudity.
And while I've seen some questionable examples (like the dungeon with the pirates), those dialogues have long since been changed in my version of the game or weren't there to begin with.

Also, the outfits posted previously are skimpy, but the context of their use is important. While I think some people might consider this a step too far and call for censorship, it's still extremely harmless compared to what many modders use.

Except those laws WON'T stop at the former and WILL go after the latter in due time, just like how they weren't content to go after only specific types of fictional porn but instead kept widening the net on which fetishes were acceptable targets. It went from loli/shota bans to furry/monster girl within weeks on some websites.

Do you really think the nannies are only going to take an inch and not a mile after you gave them as many inches as they asked for? You're even playing right into their own rulebook by using the old "oh won't somebody please think of the children" card. And it's not that I WANT censorship, but rather censorship is inevitable if the only criteria to get something removed is that some pearl-clutching prude thought it was icky (and trust me, they think a LOT of things are icky).

Hell, the Reddit post showing off those first two pictures? It's BLOCKED for some UK posters, so in some places the law HAS ALREADY started coming for the latter, because in their eyes, these glamour pieces are equally bad as actual porn because prudence does not make exceptions with regards to indecency. One of you even admitted that their version of the game is censored already, and you can bet the Chinese client will be getting scrubbed too of certain items and text, or even locations. (It wasn't long ago that I finally reached Eulmore with an area set aside for literal stripper poles and dancers)

By all accounts if Mare is bad, then the things I'm walking around in right now will be deemed so as well, or should be banned already if Square-Enix upheld any sense of consistency with their ToS or their compliance with laws in other countries, or how they've got a MUCH longer list of mods to C&D if they're trying to stop people from making themselves look or do NSFW things in-game.

My problem will always be the self-righteous hypocrisy of it all, that I can sensually dance around half-naked anywhere but that's somehow "totally appropriate for 12 year olds" to not only see BUT DO THEMSELVES using the same things, but this one mod, which doesn't even include any actual NSFW content but simply allowed people to share those mods was somehow "too far". I bloody refuse to act like "rules for thee not for me" by pretending like what I'm doing is perfectly fine relative to what they did based on the reasons given for Mare's banning, and by all accounts I'm equally guilty of inappropriateness and "forcing" others to see it without needing to resort to mods at all.

[BlisteringFrost]

Except those laws WON'T stop at the former and WILL go after the latter in due time, just like how they weren't content to go after only specific types of fictional porn but instead kept widening the net on which fetishes were acceptable targets. It went from loli/shota bans to furry/monster girl within weeks on some websites.

Do you really think the nannies are only going to take an inch and not a mile after you gave them as many inches as they asked for? You're even playing right into their own rulebook by using the old "oh won't somebody please think of the children" card. And it's not that I WANT censorship, but rather censorship is inevitable if the only criteria to get something removed is that some pearl-clutching prude thought it was icky (and trust me, they think a LOT of things are icky).

Hell, the Reddit post showing off those first two pictures? It's BLOCKED for some UK posters, so in some places the law HAS ALREADY started coming for the latter, because in their eyes, these glamour pieces are equally bad as actual porn because prudence does not make exceptions with regards to indecency. One of you even admitted that their version of the game is censored already, and you can bet the Chinese client will be getting scrubbed too of certain items and text, or even locations. (It wasn't long ago that I finally reached Eulmore with an area set aside for literal stripper poles and dancers)

By all accounts if Mare is bad, then the things I'm walking around in right now will be deemed so as well, or should be banned already if Square-Enix upheld any sense of consistency with their ToS or their compliance with laws in other countries, or how they've got a MUCH longer list of mods to C&D if they're trying to stop people from making themselves look or do NSFW things in-game.

My problem will always be the self-righteous hypocrisy of it all, that I can sensually dance around half-naked anywhere but that's somehow "totally appropriate for 12 year olds" to not only see BUT DO THEMSELVES using the same things, but this one mod, which doesn't even include any actual NSFW content but simply allowed people to share those mods was somehow "too far". I bloody refuse to act like "rules for thee not for me" by pretending like what I'm doing is perfectly fine relative to what they did based on the reasons given for Mare's banning, and by all accounts I'm equally guilty of inappropriateness and "forcing" others to see it without needing to resort to mods at all.

The law in Japan is pretty clear about it my duder.

It is illegal to modify (mod) a video game and present it publicly, as it advertises a product that does not exist.

Yoshida has said multiple times. "Do not mention Fight Club and we won't notice it happening." If you need this to be any more simple, you need professional help and I am not paid to provide this so it will not be from me.