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    Player
    MsMisato's Avatar
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    Khloe Lafihna
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyastra View Post
    It’s really not that deep. SE has always known about mods—it’s never been a secret. The issue came from people going on a public rampage showing them off everywhere, way too loudly and too often. If it had stayed subtle and within the circle, a few haters speaking out wouldn’t have been enough to make it blow up. We’ve seen the same thing happen before. And at the end of the day, SE has a public image and legal responsibility to uphold. If something gets too loud and too visible, they don’t have the luxury of pretending not to notice.
    true, but there are people here that go looking for these mods acting like they're popo. its just sad, because they're typical karens honestly. as for the luxury of pretending of not to notice for SE. they had many opportunities to squash it, even during the world first DSR and the previous world first clear debacle of the teams using third party tools to get clears publicly, they chose to ignore it at that point and turned blind eye to said tools. If players have to use to tool play the combat aspect of the game to give an edge or make it easier then there is an issue SE is failing to address and that's on them.

    Using Mare to make an example because people want to go "owo daddy spank me im your puppy grr grr" then by all means have at it,not one advantage is given in game play. Just because its not your thing doesn't mean it not someone else. Some people use it for upscales of vanilla armors, others want more variety in colors and so on which I agree with the variety in colors bit because honestly, we should have more than 2 channels for colors on armor and even games that are less resource intensive has better customization options on a mobile device. People have been asking for the basic of things in this game for the past 10 years that should been here to begin with.

    You all are more worried about what someone is seeing on their end of the screen in their room/house then people tyring to gain an advantage with tools...
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    Jenna Starsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyastra View Post
    It’s really not that deep. SE has always known about mods—it’s never been a secret.
    Right? In situations like this I always think about an interview I saw with one of the WoW devs. Talking about feedback and community trends and such, he said something along the lines of, "If 'everyone' knows about something, you can be sure that also includes the dev team."
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    Lorna Alba
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    Lamia
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    Pretty much all of this. When I heard it was using Account IDs just like the stalker plugin was, I winced a bit. I would bet anything that and making money on it were two of the major causes. The constant speaking of it in game places didn't help either.
    I don't think modders realized that Mare would inevitably become collateral damage from SE working the Account ID access issues, anyway.

    And I fully understand that the difference here was consent, as much as that goes against common-sense cyber security. You had to register and shared your ID manually, so it felt *different* to modders. But hacking is 90% social-engineering, and this is proof of that phenomenon.

    And SE, as part of that same common-sense cyber security, has to be radio silent on the changes being made on their end. That's just the way of things in hacking. You make the other side figure it out and cat and mouse it forever.
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    Edoardo Medico
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    Atomos
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    Lancer Lv 83
    To be honest, I think this is mainly due to some stupid modders using the #FFXIV and #GPOSE tags too freely.
    Most of the character images uploaded by modders are completely unrecognizable, and the worst are those that call themselves Au Ra but completely ignore horns and scales.
    They seem to be mistaken in thinking that destroying the worldview and characters of FFXIV and forcibly bringing their own characters into FFXIV is self-expression. That's why you'd be better off playing other online games.
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    Maiko Raines
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    Excalibur
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Oizen View Post
    No the modders were totally discreet and didn't draw ANY attention to themselves at all, how could Yoshi p target them like this??


    I heard about this place. Never had a chance to visit it.

    ....until my associate "Keanu" decided to.


    Behold - the "Final" Fantasy room. Definitely absolutely nothing worth writing home about.







    Unless you discount the bondage kink room.



    Keanu going to work.





    Cleaned the lobby and the lobby bedroom



    Cleaned the chapel



    They had a nice photo room.
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Zalera
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    I love how people defend modding so hard when it even divide community it is supposed to help x) don't have mare don't RP with us. I wish they would use a anti cheat I agree with JP people to just add one x) bam problem solve xx)
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    Sunhwapark's Avatar
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    Dear Boy
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    I wish they would use a anti cheat I agree with JP people to just add one x) bam problem solve xx)
    Wouldn't solve anything, but thanks for the suggestion.
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    Boko Toloko
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    I love how people defend modding so hard when it even divide community it is supposed to help x) don't have mare don't RP with us. I wish they would use a anti cheat I agree with JP people to just add one x) bam problem solve xx)
    Only people to blame for that division in the community are those who get up in arms about people using them. Can't say I've ever seen anyone berate others for not having mare code or mods. The closest that I could envision is someone pointing fingers at people not using ACT and, even then, that wouldn't just be a very exceptional case not representative of the whole but, on top of that, I don't think I've ever seen that happen.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    I love how people defend modding so hard when it even divide community it is supposed to help x) don't have mare don't RP with us. I wish they would use a anti cheat I agree with JP people to just add one x) bam problem solve xx)
    As if players from JP dont use mods.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao
    Quote Originally Posted by os12ispeak View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    GiR_Zippo's Avatar
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    Nonoko Yamada
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    Shiva
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    Conjurer Lv 52
    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    I love how people defend modding so hard when it even divide community it is supposed to help x) don't have mare don't RP with us. I wish they would use a anti cheat I agree with JP people to just add one x) bam problem solve xx)
    Yeah , lets install a root kit, is always a great idea... will stop cheats, promised... like in the beta of BF6

    Hope you don't play other games than FF XIV... otherwise you may have to remove one of the other rootkits... ahrm anti cheats.
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