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  1. #291
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flowerscody2 View Post
    This topic perfectly exemplifies why the state of the game is what it is. So many pages of whiners complaining something wasnt handed to them. You know relics are optional right? You know theyre mostly just glam right? God forbid sonething in this game require a little bit of effort. You can get all 15 atmas in like 7 or 8 hours total of grinding fates in the overworld and people are throwing fits. This is why endwalker relics were a joke. People like the ones here complaining are quite literally ruining the game for everyone else.
    Somebody has slacked in math class it seems.
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    Secretly had a crush on Mao

  2. #292
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    Bran' Bal
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    You guys with zero demiatmas, please, check if you have accepted the Relic Weapons quest.
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  3. #293
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    Peter Redhill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandr View Post
    You guys with zero demiatmas, please, check if you have accepted the Relic Weapons quest.
    Is it just the quest that says return to him with the demiatmas, because that's the one I have, but I've put about 10 hours in and I still have nothing. It hasn't been fun. Had this been Endwalker I would've either been done or halfway done. As it is I don't know if I've even started and I'm not sure if it's worth continuing. I hate OC and I hate doing FATEs so it's kinda the worst of both worlds here. Boring content mixed with RNG.
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  4. #294
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    Is it just the quest that says return to him with the demiatmas, because that's the one I have, but I've put about 10 hours in and I still have nothing. It hasn't been fun. Had this been Endwalker I would've either been done or halfway done. As it is I don't know if I've even started and I'm not sure if it's worth continuing. I hate OC and I hate doing FATEs so it's kinda the worst of both worlds here. Boring content mixed with RNG.
    “If it was EW I would have been halfway done or done”

    That’s the problem, relics aren’t meant to be like that. The first person to get a relic completed in HW did it like a month after the patch came out
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  5. #295
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    MayuAmakura's Avatar
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    Mayu Amakura
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    Alpha
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    Is it just the quest that says return to him with the demiatmas, because that's the one I have, but I've put about 10 hours in and I still have nothing. It hasn't been fun. Had this been Endwalker I would've either been done or halfway done. As it is I don't know if I've even started and I'm not sure if it's worth continuing. I hate OC and I hate doing FATEs so it's kinda the worst of both worlds here. Boring content mixed with RNG.
    I agree with you. Whole concept of just spamming fates in OC is tedious, boring and feels bland. I'd rather have to do a long quest chain or at least ask me to do dungeons, trials and so on. But I guess devs just had the easiest time with copy+paste of content and do fates.
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  6. #296
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    “If it was EW I would have been halfway done or done”

    That’s the problem, relics aren’t meant to be like that. The first person to get a relic completed in HW did it like a month after the patch came out
    The sentiment was better. It was freedom. This isn't freedom. That is why it is worse.
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  7. #297
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardeth View Post
    The sentiment was better. It was freedom. This isn't freedom. That is why it is worse.
    Gaining relics doing nothing but what you were already doing wasn’t “freedom” it was a pity participation prize

    Like congrats on doing your roulettes here is a free purple weapon

    It really speaks volumes that as soon as they got ilvl surpassed literally everyone dumped them
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  8. #298
    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Peter Redhill
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Gaining relics doing nothing but what you were already doing wasn’t “freedom” it was a pity participation prize

    Like congrats on doing your roulettes here is a free purple weapon

    It really speaks volumes that as soon as they got ilvl surpassed literally everyone dumped them
    To you. To me it gave extra value to literally anything I did. This is worse. You can dress it up or down all you want. Even after you do the bullshit rng it becomes tome dumping again anyway so they clealry are aware the first step is bullshit because they're not asking people to do it again. So in a way I am still right that freedom to do whatever you want is better than forced gameplay.
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  9. #299
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    Regis_Paran's Avatar
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    Asane Paran
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    Shiva
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Like congrats on doing your roulettes here is a free purple weapon

    congrats on doing your roulettes, here's your bouns exp for that job your grinding.
    congrats on doing your roulettes, here's currency for earpiece glam for current Moogle event.
    congrats on doing your roulettes, here are tomes/marks for gear vendor.
    congrats on doing your roulettes, here's your Burger King crown.
    congrats on doing your roulettes, here's your zero lines for Wondorus Tails.

    So many pity participation prizes...
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  10. #300
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    Onisa Stelas
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by MayuAmakura View Post
    I agree with you. Whole concept of just spamming fates in OC is tedious, boring and feels bland. I'd rather have to do a long quest chain or at least ask me to do dungeons, trials and so on. But I guess devs just had the easiest time with copy+paste of content and do fates.
    You would actually rather just play old content you've been playing for years as opposed to something new?
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