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  1. #1
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    Arongar's Avatar
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    Arongar Lunacrest
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100

    Demiatma drop rates are unacceptable

    I've grinded for several relics in the past, and while there was a grind I never felt like I was truly wasting my time. It's different this time around. Maybe I just got lucky in the past.

    I don't see a world where SE tested how it "Feels" to grind demiatma. I've spent roughly 7 hours grinding fates between zones and have gotten ZERO drops. My time is too valuable for this shit.

    I don't expect everything to be "handed" to me, but I want my time to be valued. At this point there needs to be some sort of pity system. Maybe for every fate you do, and don't get a demiatma, increase the drop rate? I'm not sure what the best solution is, all I do know is...I'm skipping this relic. I was so excited for a new relic. To finally have a new chase in the game, but this is just awful. So disappointing. It's like SE has not learned anything in 10+ years of development. It's no wonder why players have been bailing on this game lately. Soon, I might be joining them.

    I just don't feel like this game is for me anymore.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    The drop rate is about 25% from CEs, so I recommend those.

    I've got 8 Atma from 34 CEs, which is pretty good considering CEs spawning constantly. The drop rate probably isn't very good from FATEs, considering I've got 0 from 12 FATEs.
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The drop rate is about 25% from CEs, so I recommend those.

    I've got 8 Atma from 34 CEs, which is pretty good considering CEs spawning constantly. The drop rate probably isn't very good from FATEs, considering I've got 0 from 12 FATEs.
    10-15% for me so far. Probably like 2-3% from fates, but yes CEs seem a lot higher chance.
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The drop rate is about 25% from CEs, so I recommend those.

    I've got 8 Atma from 34 CEs, which is pretty good considering CEs spawning constantly. The drop rate probably isn't very good from FATEs, considering I've got 0 from 12 FATEs.
    I don't know where you got those numbers but that's definitely not what has happened to me, because I have like 80 CEs so that would mean I should already have at least 20 of those and that's without counting fates.
    But heh I don't know, maybe I'm INCREDIBLY unlucky.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The content isn't for everyone. It was meant for people who want a grind, and honestly, I haven't found the relic grind to be much so far even, since it's just a one-time grind unlike the old Atma grind from ARR. I will almost certainly be done by the time my phantom jobs, knowledge level, gear and coin grinds are done, and the atma will just be passively gained by doing that, at the current rate.
    That's easy to say when you're not the one that drew the short straw, judging by your crazy numbers.
    Content has problems? Just wave it away by telling people off the content because it obviously means that it's not designed for them, am I right?
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    Last edited by Valence; 05-31-2025 at 06:48 PM.

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    Wesley Redclaw
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The drop rate is about 25% from CEs, so I recommend those.

    I've got 8 Atma from 34 CEs, which is pretty good considering CEs spawning constantly. The drop rate probably isn't very good from FATEs, considering I've got 0 from 12 FATEs.
    NO that is you being disingenuous with your responses as usual. The fact is you either Lying or you you have been extremely lucky with drops! Truth is the RNG both in and out CE can be kind of bad and they have never really a bad luck protection in this game eventually they will up the drop rate to future proof the content so its easier to be done solo on the relics.
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    Maweth Ashari
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    Shiva
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    The drop rate is about 25% from CEs, so I recommend those.

    I've got 8 Atma from 34 CEs, which is pretty good considering CEs spawning constantly. The drop rate probably isn't very good from FATEs, considering I've got 0 from 12 FATEs.
    Sorry i saw your post about it in the other threads but nah, the droprate isnt 25% you cant test a droprate based on 100 fates or anything, if you wanna accurate values do 10.000 or more fates


    because right now im sitting at 100+ CE and got only 1 atma, which would mean if i go the same direction like you did that the drop chance is 1%
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    GoldDragon's Avatar
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    Arielan Shadowbane
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 27
    most certianly not accurate. I play about 6 hours a day and I've been farming these for a week and I'm still missing 4. I have done MANY MANY, fates and CE's the drop rate is around 5%... if that high.
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    Celes Bradford
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    Typhon
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I call bullshit on that. I went like 20 for the yellow CE and got only 2.
    and the fates in living memory are worse. 30 fates ZERO yellow.
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    Asako Natsume
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    Lich
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Drop rates are fine. I got over 7 of each just levelling to 20 and my jobs.
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    Arongar Lunacrest
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Asako View Post
    Drop rates are fine. I got over 7 of each just levelling to 20 and my jobs.
    You seem to have gotten lucky. I'm not level 20 yet... and yes, I have gotten a few from CE's. the problem is they're all the same fucking color. The whole point of doing the fates outside of CE is to target the colors you need. Riddle me this, if we only need 3 of each color, and we only need to do it once, why is it even possible to get more than 3 of a color we don't need? It's shit design made to waste the players time, plain and simple. The first night I ran OC doing CE's for 4 hours and I got one demi....ONE. so yeah, maybe I'm unlucky, but I know I'm not the only one as this isn't the only thread on the forums like this. Saying "Well I got mine easy enough" Isn't enough to say that the drops rates are "Fine". That's like saying "I've never been mugged so crime isn't a problem"
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