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    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Guy Friedman
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    Halicarnassus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Exinias View Post
    You would actually rather just play old content you've been playing for years as opposed to something new?
    It's about the freedom of it. Technically you could've under the old Endwalker system run only new content and still worked towards it while someone who didn't jive with the new content could do old content and still work towards it. It was a much better system. It was just handled poorly.
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    Khryseis Astra
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    In before we get books that makes us run the same stuff we probably would’ve run if it were tomes. lol

    Honestly I don’t care though… I just hate the RNG factor being attached. Give me a book with a checklist, and I’m fine with that… tedious but measurable progress, that’s a grind.
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    Bibine Bine
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    Mateus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Between having to either spend 10+ hours grinding the most boring damage sponge bosses I've ever seen or having to spend potentially longer grinding regular FATEs, this grind is just absolutely miserable. I don't mind it being a grind. What I do mind is that the grind itself is just not fun, plus introducing RNG to the mix is just a terrible idea.
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    Antonius Bnuuy
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    Alpha
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I’ll be honest I’d much more prefer a higher number required with guaranteed drop chances (like for example with SB).

    This grind is just too random for me, in one zone I got one every 2-3 fates while in the other zone I’ve done 15 fates without a single one dropping.
    Same with CE drops I got 7 of one type in a row while only 3 are needed. It would be nice if they were exchangeable.
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    Black Tea
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    Marilith
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    Arcanist Lv 30
    As a casual, the max hours I had spent farming demiatmas were only 30 hours spread out over 8 days, so I thought it could've been worse like the ARR atma stage (2%) vs (5%).

    Also, OC has a 20% drop rate from CE, as mentioned, so you would only need to run them 100x to finish most of them in a week.
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    Viina Sixstep
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    Shiva
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    Bard Lv 100
    I really am dreading to start that Relic after months of hiatus tbh.

    I do not like mindless Fategrinding and if the riding map is seriously required to get to CEs in time before they are deleted in seconds I fear this might be the first Relic I will skip.
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    Nova Antiquus
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    Hyperion
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    I know I'm over 70 Fates by now, and I've gotten ONE Demi Atma. No idea how many hours spent.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nova_Antiquus View Post
    I know I'm over 70 Fates by now, and I've gotten ONE Demi Atma. No idea how many hours spent.
    The drop rate from FATEs is about 5%. In my experience, it's normal to take 60 FATEs to get 1. After a while, you get 3 within several FATEs. Then it goes back to taking around 60 FATEs to get 1. But if you do the division, it ends up as a 5% rate overall.

    70 FATEs is really nothing because they die so quick. I got my 500 FATE achievement so quick in OC and I was doing it insanely casually like 1-3 hours a day, missing a lot of days and often just being 1-2 hours. If you don't want to put in the effort to fight a tiny amount of CEs (let's say up to 12 per demiatma type), then the alternative is enduring the bore of hundreds of FATEs for 3 of a given demiatma.
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    Player Ardeth's Avatar
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    Guy Friedman
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    Halicarnassus
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    Bard Lv 100
    It also doesn't help that the FATEs are so incompetently made that they die in seconds as they spawn. I had to go to Materia and play with the delay to even remotely enjoy my time. Someone should force the developers to play their ill-designed games. They'd fix it right away. God damn that zone is shit.

    I also only have 3 demiatmas. It's not even remotely fun. Honestly, now that I have the riding map I'm kinda done with it. It's so poorly designed and terrible that none of it is fun. It's just dull tedium.
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    Last edited by Ardeth; 08-10-2025 at 01:28 AM.

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    Meredith Viera
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 100
    I have four alts and have completed the grind on two and the third is almost done.
    Am I crazy ?
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