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    Rithy255's Avatar
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviatorhead View Post
    Ok but the most miserable part of the game is when this happens and I have to watch yall play the game + steal my job as healer. You're a tank, you're not supposed to be keeping up your dps, *that is my job.*
    Ok but why does healer have to be boring one button mage jobs. I like being a "Paladin" that supports my group, Frankly healer gameplay is so dull that doing it on a tank like Paladin where you have a actual rotation is night and day to how much more fun it is, Healing on healer is genuinely so dull, I generally play healers but FF14 healers are so poorly designed that Tank is the only role that has any appeal to me (Even then its flawed with how tanks are super defensive).

    It should be the responsibility of the Tank and Healer to keep the party alive, both are support roles you can't tell me that tanks job should only be to mitigate and manage aggro because that's done automatically, This game doesn't offer "Healers" outside the traditional mage archetype, the fact that Tanks can be a more melee focused support based role is a good thing.

    In the FULL Post I even mentioned to fix tanks and healers, because unlike healer mains who only care about healer design and cry that tanks like Paladin have access to healing skills, do not care about tanks enjoyment or identity when it comes to rebalancing the roles I think it should be BOTH the Healer and Tanks responsibility to keep their team alive.

    That or they can make a actual healer job that isn't in a robe only casting spells, I don't see why Healers should only appeal to people who enjoy spamming one button and have to all be full on mages.
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    Ok but why does healer have to be boring one button mage jobs. I like being a "Paladin" that supports my group, Frankly healer gameplay is so dull that doing it on a tank like Paladin where you have a actual rotation is night and day to how much more fun it is, Healing on healer is genuinely so dull, I generally play healers but FF14 healers are so poorly designed that Tank is the only role that has any appeal to me (Even then its flawed with how tanks are super defensive).

    It should be the responsibility of the Tank and Healer to keep the party alive, both are support roles you can't tell me that tanks job should only be to mitigate and manage aggro because that's done automatically, This game doesn't offer "Healers" outside the traditional mage archetype, the fact that Tanks can be a more melee focused support based role is a good thing.

    In the FULL Post I even mentioned to fix tanks and healers, because unlike healer mains who only care about healer design and cry that tanks like Paladin have access to healing skills, do not care about tanks enjoyment or identity when it comes to rebalancing the roles I think it should be BOTH the Healer and Tanks responsibility to keep their team alive.

    That or they can make a actual healer job that isn't in a robe only casting spells, I don't see why Healers should only appeal to people who enjoy spamming one button and have to all be full on mages.
    You’ve correctly identified that tanks have had agro responsibility ripped out of them and that they have near nothing else to compensate. Then also that healers have been made boring as hell.

    But it’s not like that’s healers fault or intended design direction. Tanks support the party by not letting people die to enemies, healers heal the party, why is the solution “let’s all share the healing” and not “ask for the tank mechanics they ripped out of tanks back”

    Like it’s not healers fault that they only make white robbed healers
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess