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    SophiaDL's Avatar
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    Laura Hallowheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdenElsewhere View Post
    Let's just cut through all the crap right now:

    "This does not look good on men", or "Men should be masculine", are not actual reasons to to keep men from wearing the stockings with garter belts.

    Nor is "What if teens playing this game see this" because that is a parent's job, not the goddamn world's (plus your teen has already likely seen worse by now). It is a parents job to determine what their kid sees when they turn on their computer.

    There is not a single argument for why men should not have gotten the stockings (not even the actually rather decent "What about the game's own personal choice of aesthetics?" because men already have a few pairs of stockings.) and I have yet to see any actually decent argument proposed in favor of keeping the stockings genderlocked/varianted.

    Reasons for why they should not do the gender lock/variant are better though:
    1. Less dev work as a whole (if we presume they don't have just a slacks generator at this point)
    2. Keeping customer trust (these were stockings in the photo on the live letter. They were on the female model, however, that is my first impression, which means I was expecting stockings)
    3. Less moderator work as a whole (less of these threads!)
    4. More variance in glamours
    5. ACTUALLY KEEPING IN LINE WITH THE FACT IT IS A COSPLAY GLAMOUR.
    6. Making the people who wanted the stockings on their men happy, as very few (if any) people would have quit the game over stockings, and if they did, well, that's their own issue and they probably should have quit the game a long time back.
    All of this is literally your opinion, just like the people that have the opposite opinion

    Also your points are completely moot

    Less dev work as a whole (if we presume they don't have just a slacks generator at this point)
    That makes no sense, its double to work to adapt to both genders and different looks of it

    Keeping customer trust (these were stockings in the photo on the live letter. They were on the female model, however, that is my first impression, which means I was expecting stockings)
    There's been a lot of things on live letters, even on expansion pictures that didnt happen, it never led to "massive community distrust"

    3. Less moderator work as a whole (less of these threads!)
    Will be replaced by literally any other topic, absolutely moot point

    4. More variance in glamours
    There's already a lot of variety, this wouldnt help much at all, if anything we should be requesting more glams in general, not just the gendered stuff.

    5. ACTUALLY KEEPING IN LINE WITH THE FACT IT IS A COSPLAY GLAMOUR.
    Literally doesnt matter.

    6. Making the people who wanted the stockings on their men happy, as very few (if any) people would have quit the game over stockings, and if they did, well, that's their own issue and they probably should have quit the game a long time back.
    Goes both ways. If you absolutely want tights for men, then just leave?
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    Last edited by SophiaDL; 06-14-2025 at 01:29 AM.

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    EdenElsewhere's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    All of this is literally your opinion, just like the people that have the opposite opinion
    Um... no?

    1. It is proven that they have to make separate leg pieces for lalafells when they do gender variants. They literally have to make two versions for one pair of legs. Even at the most basic level, they are making more work for themselves when they do gender variants.
    2. Multiple people went into the Occult crescent expecting the Tycoon legs to be stockings as they are portrayed as stockings in the photo on the patch notes. The fact that these were not stockings on men, is a little bit disheartening.
    3. You can't possibly expect for me to believe that if the opposite of this thread (oh why didn't they makes these slacks? guys have enough stockings!) would have reached 23 pages of actual discussion. No. it would have been laughed at for 5 straight pages before being left to die.
    4. ... Men literally have no stockings with garterbelts available to them. You either have to fake garterbelts somehow (like using the faire joi with something like the caller sandals) or just have no garterbelts.
    5. You can literally go look at Lenna. In Yoshitaka Amano's artwork she is either wearing stockings, or only her undies.
    6. This one is more opinion, but honestly, if you wanna leave the game over stockings, very much a you issue.
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    There's already a lot of variety, this wouldnt help much at all, if anything we should be requesting more glams in general, not just the gendered stuff.
    There would be a lot more variety without locks. Saying that variety already exists doesn't change that. I also don't see how asking for unlocks is any different from asking for more glam. I want gear to be unlocked so I have more choices when making outfits. Items that I can't wear may as well not exist in my game because they have no use to me.
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