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    We’re really out here trying to apply gender-norms to a world where you can literally (canonically) change your gender by drinking magic juice. Biology is literally and evidentially mutable in Eorzea…

    Just let people wear what they want. They can already dress up as frogs or pigs or elephants; what gender are those outfits for again…?
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    Last edited by Connor; 06-18-2025 at 01:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    This guy thinks catboys and bunnygirls really exist^
    I didn't knew Science wasn't real but eh you do you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    I didn't knew Science wasn't real but eh you do you
    The list of things you don't know is growing by the minute. Maybe it would just be best to let people wear dresses if they want to.
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    Science is real, you're just stuck in the 60s with it. lol
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    I don't see any downsides with giving more people more choices.
    If you don't like seeing them, you can always block them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exmo View Post
    The list of things you don't know is growing by the minute. Maybe it would just be best to let people wear dresses if they want to.
    about what? sorry but I doubt it but anyway I am done here so enjoy your time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    about what? sorry but I doubt it but anyway I am done here so enjoy your time
    You'll be back. You people can't keep away from this thread
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    If you step back from this thread and remember that FFXIV is a fantasy game, this gets even more surreal.

    The argument for gender-locking gear is the following:

    Certain sartorial conventions that exist in part of our world in 2025 must be rigorously applied to a completely independent society.

    It's like supposing that in any bipedal extraterrestrial civilization that might be out there, the women wear skirts and the men wear pants.
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    Please quit telling me to unsubscribe; I already have.

    Proletarier aller Länder, vereinigt euch! Ihr habt nichts zu verlieren als eure Ketten.

    #NeverForgetMao

    Vive la résistance!

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    why the heckie are the mods not cracking down on the transphobia and queerphobia actually.


    /e: And yes, insinuating that crossdressing or even wearing """"""""female""""""""""" clothing on a male character is "playing pretend" does veer in that direction, because irrespective of gender norm garbage, a lot of trans people also do that because they wanna have a character that is their body type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 0blivion View Post
    why the heckie are the mods not cracking down on the transphobia and queerphobia actually.


    /e: And yes, insinuating that crossdressing or even wearing """"""""female""""""""""" clothing on a male character is "playing pretend" does veer in that direction, because irrespective of gender norm garbage, a lot of trans people also do that because they wanna have a character that is their body type.
    Congrats you got my husband banned... for your information he himself is bi and accusing him of being "queerphobia" is just silly. You just wanna be right and dont care for anything else. Your side argues "but its a game not real life" yet you go and say "but some want their char to fit their body type"...

    SE gave you a finger and you want the whole arm, like usual...


    Theres a HUGE difference between earrings, some haripins or literally bikini or brides dress. Its the special thing for women and you want to take it away because you dont wanna play a girl but "play" a girl. There are gender roles, the dress belongs to girls, period.

    Two man, two girls, all is fine. Stop using "-phobe" as your magic word for everyone who doesnt support your opinions... we also had quite some trans ingame friends (most stopped playing) and we never had issues. But have fun, go on and report me as well, i dont use the forum these days anyways...

    Just try to ban and report everyone you dont like.



    I share his opinion that while some gear sure is fine, Kimonos, Robes, heck some Scottish Kilt... everything is fine. But some stuff should stay exclusive or at least get adapted versions.
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