Prog skipping/lying is going wild this tier.

[Jamini]

Sure, but ousting people from parties and playing the instances by checking a third party program and website? That's playing with fire.

SE generally needs evidence aquired in-game (chat logs typically) to pursue a ban. Not only that, but typically they don't act if there is any ambiguity whatsoever in a report - because they likely fear the fallout of an erroneous ban. (And, frankly, that's justified. Gaming companies that have subscription play have lost lawsuits against players when they failed to uphold thwir ToS in the past. Worse, Japan had a very big culture around not losing face, and the lost of trust from multiple lost characters or mistaken ban would be amplified tremendously.)

So right now we're in the situation we are now: SE only acts on the most brazen violations, sweeps the rest under the rug, and keeps collecting money.

Personally, I'm just going to eat some low-fat popcorn and giggle at people being foolish and reaping what they sowed.

[Volgia]

SE generally needs evidence aquired in-game (chat logs typically) to pursue a ban. Not only that, but typically they don't act if there is any ambiguity whatsoever in a report - because they likely fear the fallout of an erroneous ban. (And, frankly, that's justified. Gaming companies that have subscription play have lost lawsuits against players when they failed to uphold thwir ToS in the past. Worse, Japan had a very big culture around not losing face, and the lost of trust from multiple lost characters or mistaken ban would be amplified tremendously.)

So right now we're in the situation we are now: SE only acts on the most brazen violations, sweeps the rest under the rug, and keeps collecting money.

Personally, I'm just going to eat some low-fat popcorn and giggle at people being foolish and reaping what they sowed.

You think they will be disciplined or banned? That's kind of funny. I mean I always thought the use of 3rd party programs was like an open secret, so if they weren't blatant about them nothing would be enforced. But like to openly be hostile to other players by using a third party program and ousting them from parties borders on brazen. Like it's already shady when someone is like "Bring allagan melons", but this...