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  1. #10771
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    Maltothoris's Avatar
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    Malto Thoris
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    Well whos ready for the patch notes on monday?
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  2. #10772
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maltothoris View Post
    Well whos ready for the patch notes on monday?
    Maybe we'll get like a 5 potency increase on the dots.
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  3. #10773
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Second charge on aetherial manipulation let’s go

    Because as we know the single time square listened to healers since SB was when the oodles of very real healer mains who were so enamoured with WHM’s 12/10 job design jusy made the teeney tiny request that WHM needs SGE’s gap closer for……whatever reason idk I’ve long since lost of trying to understand those peoples minds
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  4. #10774
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    Nadda Daweel
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForsakenRoe View Post
    Everything mentioned here, is exactly what I've been saying for months. Wish I knew Japanese so I could post it over on those furms too, maybe it'd have a chance of getting seen by SE over there. Though, I imagine there'd be a lot more 'why are you trying to do the devs job, shut up' kind of responses
    Could always use like Chat GPT then double-check with several other apps to make sure you can get your point across.

    While I don't agree with all this healerstrike stuff. I do feel bad when I think some of it might be lost in translation.
    As long as it's straightforward and respectful. I'd say go for it.

    But that being said the General Discussion forums in Japanese seem slow cordial. Even the Healer section is kinda... muted.

    Mostly people carrying on they are super chill. Like in comparison to the discourse here... it's almost mundane.
    From the Japanese perspective unless they are just being super respectful on the official forums.
    They don't seem to care about the things the western audience seems to care about.

    At least that's what I got from a glance.

    Maybe that's why things are so disconnected.

    FF14 is a global game... maybe the Asian players just don't have the same issues the Western ones do. . . It's actually kinda sobering. Like they exist in a different world.

    Actually I just saw a thread (again I'm skimming) These guys are kinda talking about wanting the opposite of what you guys want or not talking about these issues at all* Go through their healer section and translate some stuff for yourself it's bizarre.
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    Last edited by Nadda; 03-21-2025 at 01:31 PM.

  5. #10775
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadda View Post
    Could always use like Chat GPT then double-check with several other apps to make sure you can get your point across.

    While I don't agree with all this healerstrike stuff. I do feel bad when I think some of it might be lost in translation.
    As long as it's straightforward and respectful. I'd say go for it.

    But that being said the General Discussion forums in Japanese seem slow cordial. Even the Healer section is kinda... muted.

    Mostly people carrying on they are super chill. Like in comparison to the discourse here... it's almost mundane.
    From the Japanese perspective unless they are just being super respectful on the official forums.
    They don't seem to care about the things the western audience seems to care about.

    At least that's what I got from a glance.

    Maybe that's why things are so disconnected.

    FF14 is a global game... maybe the Asian players just don't have the same issues the Western ones do. . . It's actually kinda sobering. Like they exist in a different world.

    Actually I just saw a thread (again I'm skimming) These guys are kinda talking about wanting the opposite of what you guys want or not talking about these issues at all* Go through their healer section and translate some stuff for yourself it's bizarre.
    What you have to consider though is based on the censuses over 50% of the game entire base playerbase (ie ignoring Korea and China) play on NA alone.

    We know that JP is more blasé about the state of healers but you also have to consider that near exclusive adherence to JP feedback at the expense of western feedback isn’t a very balanced view to take when western players are the majority of the playerbase
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

  6. #10776
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    Medim Azurarok
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    I dunno, I have the impression there's a not insignificant number of folks were actually chased off the role when 5.0 (or earlier) hit and silently switched from the role instead of really trying to fight back.
    I've seen some folks occasionally mention they want their aoe dots back in passing, and some others talking about keeping on having to switch off to another job because they keep getting alienated from them, so I think folks there tend to avoid talking about it from not really wanting to cause a conflict. This thread happening and the lv92 skills being introduced have shifted the tone a bit too, and it's been a little refreshing, even if it's still a pretty small step.

    It's also notable that a lot of users that posted years ago in the megathreads seem to no longer be playing.
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    Last edited by Azurarok; 03-21-2025 at 02:18 PM.

  7. #10777
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nadda View Post
    But that being said the General Discussion forums in Japanese seem slow cordial. Even the Healer section is kinda... muted.

    Mostly people carrying on they are super chill. Like in comparison to the discourse here... it's almost mundane.
    From the Japanese perspective unless they are just being super respectful on the official forums.
    They don't seem to care about the things the western audience seems to care about.

    At least that's what I got from a glance.

    Maybe that's why things are so disconnected.

    FF14 is a global game... maybe the Asian players just don't have the same issues the Western ones do. . . It's actually kinda sobering. Like they exist in a different world.
    It's mostly because they're being polite because this is an official site after all. If you want their real, unfiltered opinion, you need to go to sites like 5ch.
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  8. #10778
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    CaptainLagbeard's Avatar
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Going to post via machine translation on the Japanese forums would definitely be the nuclear option as it would likely annoy everyone there, the players, the mods and quite likely even people on dev side... But it would at least put the idea that there might be dissatisfaction in front of people.
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  9. #10779
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    Corvo Aerden
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    Kujata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    It's mostly because they're being polite because this is an official site after all. If you want their real, unfiltered opinion, you need to go to sites like 5ch.
    This. Japanese culture is notorious for being conflict avoidance. I bet a lot of people have the same dissatisfaction as us, but they either keep silent or vent somewhere else.
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  10. #10780
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozh View Post
    This. Japanese culture is notorious for being conflict avoidance. I bet a lot of people have the same dissatisfaction as us, but they either keep silent or vent somewhere else.
    Like Aravell said, if you want their less polite and unfiltered opinions you need to go on the japanese equivalent of 4chan. Although I'm pretty sure that's 2ch, no idea what 5ch is.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 03-21-2025 at 05:52 PM.

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