Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
My main issue with the game is the pace at which stuff gets released and how it gets released.

I never cared about MSQ but I get it, people do enjoy immersing themselves in the world and feeling connected to it.

I see no mention of Savage and Ultimates are not included there for some bizarre reason. Sure, in NA and EU the people that do savage + ultimates are significantly lower compared to JP but it's still a valid piece of content.
I just cannot fathom somebody playing this game for 10 years and not even doing at least 1 savage tier and not clearing/ or attempting to do Ultimates.

While savage does have a limited shelf life Ultimates do not. They are ever green. They don't need to be completed in X amount of time. Find some people you enjoy playing and banter with and just go in have a good time and meme each other.

I never got the "hardcore" vs "casual" wars in these forums. Ultimately Savage and Ultimates are integral parts of content.
Uh, never underestimate the reasons why people would play this game. Some play this game exclusively for fishing, literally.. Some play for achievement hunting, some play exclusively for PvP(granted the audience isn't as big with this one) and some will play exclusively for Deep Dungeons, some even play exclusively just for Exploratory content.

It used to be the case that many side activities in the game, e.g., crafting and even relics. hoarding would provide an end-game substantive enough where it is all you could do and engage with and would be eating really good, even if you didn't want to touch raiding.

It's perfectly easy to imagine someone having played for well over 10 years without, for example, doing a single savage on patch, or without doing a single ultimate, if you have played the game long enough and seen the history of the game, or if you have engaged with enough of the game generally speaking.