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  1. #1
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by YukioKobayashi View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure we are getting more content now compared to Heavensward.
    The quality on the other hand decreased by a lot. (Job and Encounter Design, Story 6.1 onwards, Seasonal Events, ect)

    What we lost:
    1 "Hardmode" Expert Dungeon per Patch.
    Jobquest that got replaced by Rolequest in ShB (Combat and DoL/DoH)

    What we got more instead:
    2 Ultimates per expantion (With the exception of ShB because of Covid)
    Better Relicquests thats not just "repeat already existing content" with the Field Exploration (Eureka/Bozja)
    "DoH/DoL Endgame" with Expertcrafts, Ishgard and the Moon Exploration soon
    The stupid Island that some people like
    V/C Dungeons
    Chaotic Raid(s)

    Dont do dr*gs, kids.
    No you're right, we did get more in expense of reduced quality. However the attitude of OP rings some alarms. They're fast to respond with "just unsub, lol". Also, I dont see why they'd categorize every player being a no-lifer with 18h to play.

    It's difficult to stay chill if patch cycles take longer and longer. 7.1 has been last year November and we're about to hit April.
    We had less content in HW, but patch cycles weren't this long back in the days. We just had enough stuff to do while awaiting the next patch within 3 months.
    While I did enjoy the new chaotic raid as well as extremes, it was not enough carry me through 7.2.

    Just my pov, but if there is something that needs to be adressed, than it’s the release schedule. (and story perhaps)
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    Last edited by xbahax92; 03-18-2025 at 10:02 PM.

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    RoboticNomad's Avatar
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    Kuririn Nonotuni
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    Jenova
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    27.5 hours ÷ 4.5 months =/= enough content
    Especially if you aren't too big a fan of extremes or the new chaotic.
    I'm assuming it's a bait thread but it's a good one for 7 pages so quickly, congrats.
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    Laguz Djt-marouc
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by KillaKilala View Post
    It's really not about the amount of content, but how engaging some of it is.
    That is literally all there is to it.
    Dawntrail does have a good amount of content, and the content is not bad. But it is not engaging.
    If the content by itself is bland, then engagement will drop. XIV has a bad habit of railroad the players into the content they want them to do, it is a schedule made to be a 'flavor of the month' content.

    Take 7.2 release as an example.
    We will have a week with Extremes, MSQ, and Unreal. When that's done, then Savage is unlocked. Now, Savage takes some time, so until the next content comes it will take 20 days. Now players are doing the Cosmic Exploration. To keep engagement, now we wait 30 days and then give them Occult Crescent.

    ... Why would players even feel engaged if they are being hand-holded into content? Worse even is, what if you are a player who does not like Crafting? Now it is 20 days with Cosmic Exploration, after you have already burnt out the previous PvE content given. What if you are not a player who wants to engage with Hardcore content? Well, then you need to wait 20 days until Cosmic Exploration and 50 days from patch launch, to do Occult Crescent.

    This helps no one, and as a matter of fact makes the fun of the content worse. Adding it to how combat has been stuck with a formula, the gameplay does not feel as good and everything seems to be repetitive or either mind-numb or overcomplex, as there's no in between, you build a recipe for content do not feel engaging at all. Arcadium was very well received because it was engaging even in Normal. We need to see more of that, and hope they keep it up or spread over other areas of the game.

    In sum:

    The Game needs to feel like a Game again.
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    Shai Rae
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    I am currently at the point where I remain unsubbed more than I am subbed, and feel maybe it is time to just move on. Yes, I've invested thousands of hours and (and dollars) in this game for over a decade, but I think it is running its course. The devs are obviously committed to sticking to the current content structure, while other games deliver more content on a quicker basis, especially content that is meant to be long-term. It is hard to let go, but ultimately it just may be time.
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    "The worst foe lies within the self."

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    Unsubbing , at the end of the day, is the best answer. Complaining on the forums is more for players like me who just want to kill time at work, but devs do not read or care about this place's sentiments at all.
    The only thing they will listen too is the financial bottom line. So if you don't have to pay your subscription, don't. Best way of communicating with Yoshi P.
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    Last edited by RoboticNomad; 03-18-2025 at 12:29 AM.

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    Tiger Undie
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    Fisher Lv 100
    i think they are missing out a lot of opportunities to create fun content. More 4 vs 4 pvp modes aside of "push a crystal" would be nice.
    They could drop a "classic coils" event, that makes the bosses drop event-exclusive gear, when cleared synced. Same for alex or other old kinds of content, that noone has done in 5+ years (let people that dont raid get the same stuff for grinding 1000 fates or something, so they cant complain about being locked out)
    They could also add CC-like monthly trophies and rewards for people that rank high in deep dungeons, let them get unique titles, gear, plates, mounts aswell

    i dont know, they have the fundament for countless of good events or things for people to farm and enjoy, but they dont make use of any of it.
    Best they do is moogle tome events for crap, that 90% of people already finished collecting years ago :c
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    I don't fancy the 'fate farm'. But what makes the process great is the stuffs that I can do to spice things up with LA systems.
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    My main issue with the game is the pace at which stuff gets released and how it gets released.

    I never cared about MSQ but I get it, people do enjoy immersing themselves in the world and feeling connected to it.

    I see no mention of Savage and Ultimates are not included there for some bizarre reason. Sure, in NA and EU the people that do savage + ultimates are significantly lower compared to JP but it's still a valid piece of content.
    I just cannot fathom somebody playing this game for 10 years and not even doing at least 1 savage tier and not clearing/ or attempting to do Ultimates.

    While savage does have a limited shelf life Ultimates do not. They are ever green. They don't need to be completed in X amount of time. Find some people you enjoy playing and banter with and just go in have a good time and meme each other.

    I never got the "hardcore" vs "casual" wars in these forums. Ultimately Savage and Ultimates are integral parts of content.
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    Nero Tsukimi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    My main issue with the game is the pace at which stuff gets released and how it gets released.

    I never cared about MSQ but I get it, people do enjoy immersing themselves in the world and feeling connected to it.

    I see no mention of Savage and Ultimates are not included there for some bizarre reason. Sure, in NA and EU the people that do savage + ultimates are significantly lower compared to JP but it's still a valid piece of content.
    I just cannot fathom somebody playing this game for 10 years and not even doing at least 1 savage tier and not clearing/ or attempting to do Ultimates.

    While savage does have a limited shelf life Ultimates do not. They are ever green. They don't need to be completed in X amount of time. Find some people you enjoy playing and banter with and just go in have a good time and meme each other.

    I never got the "hardcore" vs "casual" wars in these forums. Ultimately Savage and Ultimates are integral parts of content.
    i do think they are yes but like most static nor pf are late at night making some people struggles with those. I don't blame any one here just like for me to do any savage and ultimate I will have to kill my sleep for it. unless I get the one odd pf early in the day. I am sure I aren't the only person that think is in the same situation.
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    i do think they are yes but like most static nor pf are late at night making some people struggles with those. I don't blame any one here just like for me to do any savage and ultimate I will have to kill my sleep for it. unless I get the one odd pf early in the day. I am sure I aren't the only person that think is in the same situation.
    hmm right, but I did see occasionally in the ERC discord these types of parties. I would imagine you aren't the only one in that situation so I would still try to find or create a party of this kind, if it's something you like doing/ trying out.

    Might take longer to find members but hey, it's still worth a shot than not.

    I always wanted to do MINE of old savage tiers, since I never had the chance and after some time I did manage to find a group to do that with. I am currently having a blast in A8s and A11s, damn robots!.
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