No, we do have enough content

[Kohashi]

Uh, never underestimate the reasons why people would play this game. Some play this game exclusively for fishing, literally.. Some play for achievement hunting, some play exclusively for PvP(granted the audience isn't as big with this one) and some will play exclusively for Deep Dungeons, some even play exclusively just for Exploratory content.

It used to be the case that many side activities in the game, e.g., crafting and even relics. hoarding would provide an end-game substantive enough where it is all you could do and engage with and would be eating really good, even if you didn't want to touch raiding.

It's perfectly easy to imagine someone having played for well over 10 years without, for example, doing a single savage on patch, or without doing a single ultimate, if you have played the game long enough and seen the history of the game, or if you have engaged with enough of the game generally speaking.

I mean sure, it's great they found something they are enjoying and I know people as you describe but not one of them ever said, "FF14 devs / yoshi-p should cater JUST to my needs or focus on that because it's what I like best or because I am the majority"

Also, there is a difference between I do this content because I enjoy it and I do it because it's stress-free. If you avoid something because it's too "stressful" you are clearly living in fear. Also, how can one determine they will not enjoy doing something if they never tried it at least a few times or for a while?

[Kaurhz]

I mean sure, it's great they found something they are enjoying and I know people as you describe but not one of them ever said, "FF14 devs / yoshi-p should cater JUST to my needs or focus on that because it's what I like best or because I am the majority"

Also, there is a difference between I do this content because I enjoy it and I do it because it's stress-free. If you avoid something because it's too "stressful" you are clearly living in fear. Also, how can one determine they will not enjoy doing something if they never tried it at least a few times or for a while?

I mean, yeah, but that's the case universally for every piece of content in the game. It just so happens that a lot of categories of players have been neglected for well over 4 years at this point, so the whole " they need to cater to this audience more" is not really much of a shocker. -- Like, I would hope most people when they are referring to this are not necessarily referring to the fact that we should take everything away, from, say, Raiders, and put it in the hands of casual or vice versa.. But simply requests like, there shouldn't be an 18 months period of wait between content types (e.g., Exploratory should be coming much sooner than 7.2).. Just because it has side a wide scope of benefit to it.

I think the reason varies, like it isn't really as simple as "This is too stressful", as in "This is too hard", or "This is too much"... Like, from my experience with raiding, when I have, raiding intrinsically hasn't been stressful, and actually encounters like E5S are my favorite.... But much of that is undone because of extrinsic factors like visual impairment or colorblindness, which absolutely has been a problem.

People will just decide whether they will or will not enjoy something based on how the experience was to get to that point.. e.g., how engaging some jobs are or how smooth and snappy the gameplay feels.. For a lot of people that is simply a strong enough basis to make that decision. It's like crafting with me, I've done experts here and there for Island Sanctuary, and I've done expert recipes in Ishgard Restoration extensively (which was well over 5 years ago, so I haven't exactly done it extensively recently), yet based on the core system supporting crafting (the abilities, and how material condition works, and how gathering itself works), then I can make a pretty good inference to say that I am just not going to enjoy crafting expert recipes when they come out with the next iteration.

[Kohashi]

I mean, yeah, but that's the case universally for every piece of content in the game. It just so happens that a lot of categories of players have been neglected for well over 4 years at this point, so the whole " they need to cater to this audience more" is not really much of a shocker. -- Like, I would hope most people when they are referring to this are not necessarily referring to the fact that we should take everything away, from, say, Raiders, and put it in the hands of casual or vice versa.. But simply requests like, there shouldn't be an 18 months period of wait between content types (e.g., Exploratory should be coming much sooner than 7.2).. Just because it has side a wide scope of benefit to it.

I think the reason varies, like it isn't really as simple as "This is too stressful", as in "This is too hard", or "This is too much"... Like, from my experience with raiding, when I have, raiding intrinsically hasn't been stressful, and actually encounters like E5S are my favorite.... But much of that is undone because of extrinsic factors like visual impairment or colorblindness, which absolutely has been a problem.

People will just decide whether they will or will not enjoy something based on how the experience was to get to that point.. e.g., how engaging some jobs are or how smooth and snappy the gameplay feels.. For a lot of people that is simply a strong enough basis to make that decision. It's like crafting with me, I've done experts here and there for Island Sanctuary, and I've done expert recipes in Ishgard Restoration extensively (which was well over 5 years ago, so I haven't exactly done it extensively recently), yet based on the core system supporting crafting (the abilities, and how material condition works, and how gathering itself works), then I can make a pretty good inference to say that I am just not going to enjoy crafting expert recipes when they come out with the next iteration.

Personally, I don't feel a certain category has been neglected, but I can agree there is simply not enough content released.

As for accessibility tools provided by SE I agree, it's severely lacking. I have no visual impairment and some of the fight's color scheme and visual noise have been hard for me as well..lol. The most recent example is P12n/s. I had so much eye strain progging that cursed fight and I still fucking hate it. Who thought bright PINK + light purple was a good choice? Not that FRU is any better.. LOL

[DynnDiablos]

I mean sure, it's great they found something they are enjoying and I know people as you describe but not one of them ever said, "FF14 devs / yoshi-p should cater JUST to my needs or focus on that because it's what I like best or because I am the majority"

Also, there is a difference between I do this content because I enjoy it and I do it because it's stress-free. If you avoid something because it's too "stressful" you are clearly living in fear. Also, how can one determine they will not enjoy doing something if they never tried it at least a few times or for a while?

Dude. I just don't like savage raids and ultimate. It's not for me. I also struggle with memory issues. I can do a dungeon, trial and raid multiple times and I will never remember the mechanics due to short-term memory problems. Living in fear? I don't give two flying f--ks about difficult content. Let me be.

[Gwenkatsu]

This forums are getting boring. I wanna play a game. Lets play... spot the armchair psychologist!

Also, there is a difference between I do this content because I enjoy it and I do it because it's stress-free. If you avoid something because it's too "stressful" you are clearly living in fear. Also, how can one determine they will not enjoy doing something if they never tried it at least a few times or for a while?

There, I found one. Do I now get my BIS armor in the mail?

But seriously: I do not like normal Trials and Raids because I do not understand half the mechanics, and dying five times in a row is not fun. So naturally I avoid game modes with even more and more complicated mechanics. And this is me living in fear? Honestly dude, this is by far the most stupid thing I've read in a while - even on this very forum.

Oh, and BTW. You do not need to fully eat 3 super-sized turd sandwiches to find out that you do not like the taste - the first bite should be more than enough.

[SubmarineAlt]

This forums are getting boring. I wanna play a game. Lets play... spot the armchair psychologist!



There, I found one. Do I now get my BIS armor in the mail?

But seriously: I do not like normal Trials and Raids because I do not understand half the mechanics, and dying five times in a row is not fun. So naturally I avoid game modes with even more and more complicated mechanics. And this is me living in fear? Honestly dude, this is by far the most stupid thing I've read in a while - even on this very forum.

Oh, and BTW. You do not need to fully eat 3 super-sized turd sandwiches to find out that you do not like the taste - the first bite should be more than enough.

Yes. You actively avoiding challenge because you don't want to learn how to overcome the challenge is a fear. A fear of failure and a fear of learning. The former is called atychiphobia. The latter is most closely sophophobia, depending on what classification you have.

By your own admission, you avoid those game modes because you don't "understand" half of the mechanics. Instead of wanting to learn, you avoid it. You don't want to "die 5 times," so you avoid it. You don't want to fail to an extent so extreme that you avoid situations where you might.

You're legit afraid dawg.

As for your analogy at the end there. Shit sandwich isn't a good example for you. You should have used broccoli. Many small, tiny little baby children hate broccoli. But, as adults, we realize that our aversions as children might not be valid as we grow and develop. Thus, broccoli might be on the menu as we mature.

Unless your parents fail you and allow you to be a picky eater.

[yesnt]

Yes. You actively avoiding challenge because you don't want to learn how to overcome the challenge is a fear. A fear of failure and a fear of learning. The former is called atychiphobia. The latter is most closely sophophobia, depending on what classification you have.

By your own admission, you avoid those game modes because you don't "understand" half of the mechanics. Instead of wanting to learn, you avoid it. You don't want to "die 5 times," so you avoid it. You don't want to fail to an extent so extreme that you avoid situations where you might.

You're legit afraid dawg.

As for your analogy at the end there. Shit sandwich isn't a good example for you. You should have used broccoli. Many small, tiny little baby children hate broccoli. But, as adults, we realize that our aversions as children might not be valid as we grow and develop. Thus, broccoli might be on the menu as we mature.

Unless your parents fail you and allow you to be a picky eater.

Some people also don't wanna raid because of people like, well, you.

[Mawlzy]

Yes. You actively avoiding challenge because you don't want to learn how to overcome the challenge is a fear. A fear of failure and a fear of learning. The former is called atychiphobia. The latter is most closely sophophobia, depending on what classification you have.

Yes, good point, and this applies to all areas of the game.

Players living in fear of crafting because of that sickening sound you get when the craft fails.

Others with an absolute terror of fishing because the fish might fall off the hook.

There's even someone in my FC who has to Fantasia to change their hairstyle because they are petrified of scissors.

[Kohashi]

This forums are getting boring. I wanna play a game. Lets play... spot the armchair psychologist!



There, I found one. Do I now get my BIS armor in the mail?

But seriously: I do not like normal Trials and Raids because I do not understand half the mechanics, and dying five times in a row is not fun. So naturally I avoid game modes with even more and more complicated mechanics. And this is me living in fear? Honestly dude, this is by far the most stupid thing I've read in a while - even on this very forum.

Oh, and BTW. You do not need to fully eat 3 super-sized turd sandwiches to find out that you do not like the taste - the first bite should be more than enough.

Nobody, and let me repeat that, NOBODY, goes first time in a fight and has everything figured out.

And how is the obvious avoidance of failure not fear? You sit there in your corner, finding a million excuses than actively fail and get better in the process. Keep coping..

[yesnt]

When people make raiding their personality:

And how is the obvious avoidance of failure not fear? You sit there in your corner, finding a million excuses than actively fail and get better in the process. Keep coping..