Yuweyawata Field Station is so wrong

[Mawlzy]

That's a good point actually. I mean, as sub-par as I may be at the game, I'm not aware that I've ever been the sole reason an instance of anything has failed.

Which, as you say, makes me wonder why all these people who find everything "too easy" have a problem with anyone who struggles. Surely they're such epic players, and find normal content so easy, that they can just solo it anyway?

I can see how getting slowed down might be irritating if you're running through the daily roulettes in order to get tomes. Such players are not doing the content because they like it, they do it because it provides something they feel they need, and some like to do it as fast as possible.

But one would hope mentors in particular would relish the chance to mentor when they're grouped with a struggling player.

Honestly I think what a lot of it boils down to is ego investment in a video game. If one's self-worth is determined by proficiency in FFXIV PvE, the effect is magnified by telling less-skilled people how incredibly bad they are.

[Alice_Rivers]

But one would hope mentors in particular would relish the chance to mentor when they're grouped with a struggling player.

I would think a lot of mentors would be all too happy to do what we signed contracts to do, I have the experience though of people who need mentoring either ignoring the offer or telling me where to stick it. When you have a couple of dozen such experiences you tend to just shrug and let people be bad. Not to say I've had NO success, but those are like mount drops, so it's easy to conclude that people have no interest in being good at the game.

[Mawlzy]

I would think a lot of mentors would be all too happy to do what we signed contracts to do, I have the experience though of people who need mentoring either ignoring the offer or telling me where to stick it. When you have a couple of dozen such experiences you tend to just shrug and let people be bad. Not to say I've had NO success, but those are like mount drops, so it's easy to conclude that people have no interest in being good at the game.

I guess the question is which comes first?

Do mentors get ground down by constant rejection of help and rudeness? Or does their contempt for weaker players cause them to offer help in an abrasive manner, and that is the cause of the rejection?

I honestly don't know the answer to that, but imagine that like everything else in games and life, some mentors are better than others.

[Carin-Eri]

I guess the question is which comes first?

Do mentors get ground down by constant rejection of help and rudeness? Or does their contempt for weaker players cause them to offer help in an abrasive manner, and that is the cause of the rejection?

I honestly don't know the answer to that, but imagine that like everything else in games and life, some mentors are better than others.

I will say, I don't often 'vocalise' my desire for guidance, but sometimes - in content I'm not confident playing - I will mark and follow a player who has a mentor crown as tend to assume they know what they're doing and I can therefore follow their lead to a degree.

[Mawlzy]

I will say, I don't often 'vocalise' my desire for guidance, but sometimes - in content I'm not confident playing - I will mark and follow a player who has a mentor crown as tend to assume they know what they're doing and I can therefore follow their lead to a degree.

I just checked the requirements to be a battle mentor and was horrified to discover that I qualify lol.

This suggests the system could do with a little tweaking.

[OliverQ]

I just checked the requirements to be a battle mentor and was horrified to discover that I qualify lol.

This suggests the system could do with a little tweaking.

Yup, anyone can get battle mentor. Only requires a lot of time for dungeon clears/commendations. But I'm not sure what they could do to improve it.

[OliverQ]

I can see how getting slowed down might be irritating if you're running through the daily roulettes in order to get tomes. Such players are not doing the content because they like it, they do it because it provides something they feel they need, and some like to do it as fast as possible.

But one would hope mentors in particular would relish the chance to mentor when they're grouped with a struggling player.

Honestly I think what a lot of it boils down to is ego investment in a video game. If one's self-worth is determined by proficiency in FFXIV PvE, the effect is magnified by telling less-skilled people how incredibly bad they are.

Unfortunately, a lot of mentors would like to help more, but we get comments like "You don't pay for my sub" when trying to offer help to struggling players.

[Carin-Eri]

I can see how getting slowed down might be irritating if you're running through the daily roulettes in order to get tomes. Such players are not doing the content because they like it, they do it because it provides something they feel they need, and some like to do it as fast as possible.

But one would hope mentors in particular would relish the chance to mentor when they're grouped with a struggling player.

Honestly I think what a lot of it boils down to is ego investment in a video game. If one's self-worth is determined by proficiency in FFXIV PvE, the effect is magnified by telling less-skilled people how incredibly bad they are.

Agreed.

I'll admit, my goal is usually just to make sure I do my best to pull my weight. And maybe I fail at that sometimes - but it isn't for lack of trying.

Heck - I queued Trial Roulette this morning and 'The Final Day' popped. Was playing as Sage and worked my butt off healing and shielding the team and only 'died' once due to being just a little too slow avoiding Endsinger's planet hurling antics!.
And when the instance was completed both myself and the Scholar were thanked for "great healing" and I, for once, got this:

Which I guess isn't really a big deal - but I'll admit, it did actually mean quite a lot to me!