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    Quote Originally Posted by TofuLove View Post
    I strongly disagree that it's too difficult - i think a lot of it is to do with how long it takes for community to get good in a mode that doesn't pop for half a year.
    If SE wanted people to have an opportunity to get good in a mode - add the mechs to Wolf Den Pier, so we could practice or even understand what the buttons do!

    The reason why extreme trial or savage content roulette doesn't exist is that it doesn't reward not clearing - and you want to describe prog points and you want to describe strats you will use or team comp you want - rival wings doesn't have any of those issues. I think you are comparing apples and oranges.
    We are saying the same thing.

    We both agree that it's a community/player base thing. I do not personally believe it to be hard either. I do think a Hall of Novice for PvP would be massive. But, it does not change the fact that it's not there right now and we both agree that it's a mess to just plop a roulette on content that need guidance and understanding.

    That is your opinion on why difficult content does not have a roulette. Because Extreme Trials can come up in mentor roulette. With the idea that mentors are more experienced in the game and can help newer players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianRicardo View Post
    But, it does not change the fact that it's not there right now and we both agree that it's a mess to just plop a roulette on content that need guidance and understanding.
    I actually don't think that's a problem, currently it's a mess that doesn't pop. At least it could be a mess that pops somewhat
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    Quote Originally Posted by TofuLove View Post
    I actually don't think that's a problem, currently it's a mess that doesn't pop. At least it could be a mess that pops somewhat
    Discord tends to be protective of its niche content.
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    RW -when it pops during events- already has some friction with new players due to the various gimmicks and mechanics, even more when said newbies pick up mechs they don't know what to do with (or conversely, when no one mechs up), or when they smack a tower by hand for no reason.

    I'd love a roulette but realistically in a 1v1 scenario it can be very frustrating for one side if there's a snowball, much more so than FL. Frontline works because it's tri-faction, and tri-faction always has this third party that can shake things up and adds an element of rng/unknown in random matchmaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    RW -when it pops during events- already has some friction with new players due to the various gimmicks and mechanics, even more when said newbies pick up mechs they don't know what to do with (or conversely, when no one mechs up), or when they smack a tower by hand for no reason.

    I'd love a roulette but realistically in a 1v1 scenario it can be very frustrating for one side if there's a snowball, much more so than FL. Frontline works because it's tri-faction, and tri-faction always has this third party that can shake things up and adds an element of rng/unknown in random matchmaking.
    Let's be honest, mogtome events are bad indicators of quality gameplay for any mode. Frontline during mogtome is equally not great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TofuLove View Post
    Let's be honest, mogtome events are bad indicators of quality gameplay for any mode. Frontline during mogtome is equally not great.
    It's different for RW though, you've got a mix of the people grinding the 1k wins as well as newbies who still made the effort to look up RW in the DF. Frontline is much worse to play during the event by comparison.

    And actually RW during the mog event is not that different than during community events. It's really the same people + the few event enjoyers that were needed for the pops. And I know from experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    It's different for RW though, you've got a mix of the people grinding the 1k wins as well as newbies who still made the effort to look up RW in the DF. Frontline is much worse to play during the event by comparison.

    And actually RW during the mog event is not that different than during community events. It's really the same people + the few event enjoyers that were needed for the pops. And I know from experience.
    My guess is if you had a daily RW roulette with the usual XP and tome bonuses, that quality would decline rapidly, but we won't know until it is tried.

    I guess it may be sufficiently confusing that even FL AFKers would avoid it.
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