Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
Nope, missed the point. Titan literally gets rid of failure points with almost no downsides. This causes parties to take the easier, less risky route. Since EU/NA extremes are mostly done through PF, this causes parties to exclude tanks in favour of the easier, less risky strat.

If excluding a healer from dungeons was the easier, less risky strat, you would see more PFs popping up with dungeon runs that exclude a healer. You don't though. Now, groups of friends might form a light party and queue that way, but that also doesn't necessarily mean there is an imbalance. The fact that having a healer is not riskier/harder, you don't lose anything having one, infact, it is safer. So there tends to be no problems with running through DF.

If you cannot see the difference in the 2 situations, you need to take a more nuanced look at the different scenarios and the differences surrounding them, especially when this whole thing is about jobs getting excluded based on the environment, speaking of:



I would have predicted that, if the titan Egi strat was so good, Japan might have had their first EX fight farmed through the PF rather than the DF, or at least leaned more heavily in that direction. This is obviously speculation, but I do think that shift would have happened.



Having a healer isn't a detriment like having tanks in Ramuh EX would have been. If you want a simple comparison, it is that right there.
That’s the thing, if you meet a (very low) bar of skill then bringing a healer IS an active detriment because they do less damage for functionally no positive gain outside of being a safety net the party really doesn’t need. This also allows you to skip mechanics and generally make the run faster

A healer is only not a detriment when the safety net is needed. But you can argue the same “tanks are needed” when the SMN was either really bad or the party was bad at managing agro. They are both just a facet of meeting the low skill bar needed to perform the off clear