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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    PCT to SMN has a 32 to 1 clear rate, that’s more ergregious than the worst of the worst of WOW’s “I’ll dox ya grandma if you join as this job” and far worse than balance defenders pet defence of HW PLD

    And like I’ve said before I don’t care about balance, I care that the jobs are grey slop in pursuit of balance and they still can’t balance them which is actually why I don’t really mind the above discrepancy between PCT and SMN, because PCT is trying to do something different. But I know I’d be pissed if I was one of SMN’s 3 mains
    I have no clue where you got that data from, but fine, I will humor you. The ratio isn't low because people were forced to switch from SMN.
    I personally find both PCT and SMN pretty boring, but that's just me.

    Why would you exclude UWU from balancing? Do you actually care about balance?

    I am still waiting for that example of the fight that you are progging ATM and in which SMN is being kicked/excluded. You got me curious so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    I have no clue where you got that data from, but fine, I will humor you. The ratio isn't low because people were forced to switch from SMN.
    I personally find both PCT and SMN pretty boring, but that's just me.

    Why would you exclude UWU from balancing? Do you actually care about balance?

    I am still waiting for that example of the fight that you are progging ATM and in which SMN is being kicked/excluded. You got me curious so?
    “I’m waiting for that example of people being kicked/excluded”


    Edit correction on my part it’s a 23 to 1 pure ratio (ie how many clears PCT has vs how many SMN has) it’s a 32 to 1 ratio on clears of PCT that DONT have SMN vs clears of SMN that DONT have PCT

    Literally FRU. You don’t get a 32 to 1 ratio just because people vaguely prefer PCT (your opinions on either are irrelevant to this discussion). PF’s all over are locking caster spots to PCT and if they allow double caster they discourage all but RDM. This was a big controversy when unsurprisingly PCT was incredibly powerful in FRU
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 03-10-2025 at 07:32 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    “I’m waiting for that example of people being kicked/excluded”


    Edit correction on my part it’s a 23 to 1 pure ratio (ie how many clears PCT has vs how many SMN has) it’s a 32 to 1 ratio on clears of PCT that DONT have SMN vs clears of SMN that DONT have PCT

    Literally FRU. You don’t get a 32 to 1 ratio just because people vaguely prefer PCT (your opinions on either are irrelevant to this discussion). PF’s all over are locking caster spots to PCT and if they allow double caster they discourage all but RDM. This was a big controversy when unsurprisingly PCT was incredibly powerful in FRU
    That is just a number. I have been progging in PF a lot these days, and I have NEVER seen a party locking in a spot for PCT, maybe because it's also against the ToS too..LOL.

    PCT is highly effective in ultimates because of its frequent downtimes and the way it can mitigate those moments by simply painting. PCT would be overpowered if it excelled in every single battle, but it doesn’t.

    I love numbers, so let's see more of it :
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/58?boss=1071
    https://www.fflogs.com/zone/statistics/58?boss=1078

    PCT is OP, right........
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