#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Rithy255]

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asking why tanks gameplay and enjoyment is important is ridiculous, No one is saying that it isn't important for healers to feel valid in the party and that they should have more to do (frankly anyone who is against healers having more to do, just doesn't obviously play healers), but you act as if stuff like holy sheltron regen would actually fix your issues with healer design, they will barely make a difference, I mean did you heal old endwalker dark knights much? I know I didn't need to especially during boss fights that's because they have tons of mitigation and very little damage.

I feel like your the one throwing your hands up, by insinuating that we should just accept low damage output and nerf tanks so healers can have the fun while tanking becomes even more miserable for people like me who enjoy supportive cooldowns, because funnily enough I don't just play "paladin" to be a Mitigation and aggro bot, I play it to support and help my team partly as well. (which includes a bit of healing... surpise I want to help contribute a bit of healing as a "paladin" funny that...)

Sure changing damage profiles and only nerfing down some sustain aspects wouldn't fully fix healers or tanks in older content, but I don't really see why we should let the old content hold us back, it's not like old content is actually giving any attention or care for balance.

All I'm saying is that tanks and healers are both important, you act like we have to sacrifice these things (even skills like curing waltz that can add a little but of positioning nuance to dancer), for the sake of healers being balanced and all I've ever said is no we don't actually need to change too much outside of obvious over bloated self healing such as pld healing off the blade combos or warriors entire kit at this point.

Tanks could also take some healing pressure off healers, I think a difference a good tank should make is the fact they may save healer some gcd heals to help damage with good communication and teamwork, the issue is you never need to GCD heal because the entire lack of damage issue, with frankly both healers and tanks having way too many mit/heal skills, so theirs no actual skill expression of using these said cooldowns currently on tanks, but I want that i want to work together with healers as a tank in this team based game.

All I'm saying is that we can have our cake and eat it too in this situation, maybe we might have to make some changes and I fully agree on nerfing sustain, but I draw the line when your so insistent that every "free" healing cooldown on a non healer must go or you will not compromise or be happy.

[Supersnow845]

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You drew the line at a point I never made so I’m not sure who you are apparently arguing with

The only point of yours I argued with was the idea that nerfing tank sustain wouldn’t make healers better (NOT FIX; better) because yes there was a world of difference in EW healing a DRK vs healing a WAR/PLD. Healing the DRK didn’t “fix” healers but at least I got to heal which was a marketed improvement over healing the WAR/PLD

That was my only point. They could fix both of these issues by upping damage. HOWEVER since we have screamed into a void for 5 years asking damage to be raised and their response is to lower damage and up healing in the world where damage can be healed by either the tank or the healer but doesn’t need both it should be the HEALER doing the healing. That won’t fix healers but that was never my point

We don’t actually disagree, you are just arguing with a point I didn’t make

[Aravell]

Personally, I view the tank/healer issue as 'encroachment vs supplementation'.

Currently, a WAR can just heal themselves and their co-tank back up from a double tankbuster with Nascent Flash without any input from either healer within the party, that makes Nascent Flash an encroachment upon the healer role.

Meanwhile, a WHM cannot simply toss an Aquaveil on a tank and allow them to survive a tankbuster with no input from the tank, that makes Aquaveil supplementary to the tank role.

The path they can take now is either to cut tank healing down to only supplementing the healer's job or they can limit the tank's healing directly with restrictions/losses.

[AmiableApkallu]

I’m becoming more and more convinced (similar to right back in SB) that nothing will change with healing design until something manages to pull back the curtain for these average players and shows them how garbage WHM actually is or the reverse where fight design changes so that WHM stands on its own two feet and all healers move forward together rather than the current design of WHM being an enforced burden on the shield healers who’s crying wishing for an AST or the other shield healer

Because I've been playing through the FFIV Pixel Remaster these past days…

[Kacho_Nacho]

Because I've been playing through the FFIV Pixel Remaster these past days…

Misread that and thought you wrote you were playing through a FFXIV Pixel Remaster. I was like, there's a pixel remaster of this game??? I'd play that in a heartbeat!

[ForsakenRoe]

Because I've been playing through the FFIV Pixel Remaster these past days…

Maybe the way she's able to avoid being a burden is because when there's no damage to heal, she's able to support the team with things like Silence, Confuse, Blink, Haste/Slow, Protect/Shell/Reflect and even Dispel

[HealerStrike]

give it up everyone, it's been 3/4 of a year and it's just radio silence from the devs

gg no re

[Saraide]

I am so ready for the next liveletter to show a few phantom job combos but none with healer as main job nor phantom job.

[Supersnow845]

I am so ready for the next liveletter to show a few phantom job combos but none with healer as main job nor phantom job.

Still waiting for meteor to play a caster

[Tint]

I am so ready for the next liveletter to show a few phantom job combos but none with healer as main job nor phantom job.

Looking at Bozja, the phantom jobs will likely give you one button which replaces the whole healer role. Who needs an actual healer when you have Lost Cure III? The mere existence of the phantom job system already tells us that there will be no healing checks, just more DDR mechanics and then we have the honor of casting raises left and right, a nice distraction from spamming Glare for 3 hours.