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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    This is only good for people who only have one job and feel the need to place restrictions on others..
    No, it's those like you who sneer at others who don't get any pleasure from leveling, say, MNK, when they want to play a mage who place the restrictions by dictating that to be allowed into your groups others must have every job leveled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kraggy View Post
    No, it's those like you who sneer at others who don't get any pleasure from leveling, say, MNK, when they want to play a mage who place the restrictions by dictating that to be allowed into your groups others must have every job leveled.
    I am sure noone gets pleasure from leveling, it is a tedious task, but you're just limiting yourself which by all means do so, just means I will avoid players with your mindset..

    If you want to be one job and one job only, cool.. just means you're going to get looked aside either way, even if your job gets locked.. you have no versatility.. and I may have an elitist mindset but why should I sacrifice my skills and time I put in, so you can be happy..

    noone said you guys couldn't place self restrictions on your team for completing it w/o switching, its possible.. I enjoy playing MNK/BLM at AV.

    Its those like you who sneer at players who get more then one job to 50, then place restrictions upon others by dictating to us that for you to join we have to sacrifice versatility..

    Sorry man, one lil dev response isn't going to change my mind on this.. They need to fix Speed runs, not place restrictions....
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    Last edited by SynysterBlitz; 04-28-2012 at 01:55 AM.

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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    I am sure noone gets pleasure from leveling, it is a tedious task
    It's less about whether one likes leveling and more about the class/job you're leveling. As I said, some of us identify more with one job than the others. There's no reason why anyone should be punished for it.
    Its those like you who sneer at players who get more then one job to 50, then place restrictions upon others by dictating to us that for you to join we have to sacrifice versatility.
    Your camp causes more detriment to those who'd rather play a handful or even one class/job than the other way around. As I said in my prior post, you can still switch things up. It just wouldn't be at the expense of others.
    If you want to be one job and one job only, cool. just means you're going to get looked aside either way, even if your job gets locked.
    False. If content is balanced so that numerous set ups can clear it with similar levels of difficulty, he's not going to get excluded. Well, his ability to join the group will just be measured by what spots in the group are open per role rather than what jobs he has leveled. That's a good thing, by the way, and a massive step forward.
    They need to fix Speed runs, not place restrictions.
    The OP's suggestion is a step towards fixing speed runs. It's currently an issue of what the players can do to get around the content and how the content itself is balanced to encourage balanced group comps over comps that favor melee or favor range.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
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    Geesus Ravenheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    The OP's suggestion is a step towards fixing speed runs. It's currently an issue of what the players can do to get around the content and how the content itself is balanced to encourage balanced group comps over comps that favor melee or favor range.
    This^

    I find it funny with all the threads talking or QQing about lack of content that speed runs seem to be all that groups do. Someone mentioned earlier about BCNMs in XI that posted a speed time and that was or could be a goal but as also stated wasn't what got you X Uber loot it got you the same loot whether a hour or 15 mins. But if content is so lacking and Yoshi and the Devs put in dungeons for us to have "fun" with, why was everyone trying to blow through it? Now you're out of ... CONTENT!

    Speed kills. Period. Kills the content kills the fun. I have YET to go through ANY of the newer dungeons with ANYONE including my LS that has actually tried to kill and complete the ENTIRE dungeon. As a matter of fact you have certain Dungeons such as DH that if you DON'T run through it, you're most likely going to die quite a bit due to the eye and his shenanigans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    Why would Yoshi want to limit our capabilities.. and why a Dev response on a topic that has been debated to be hated..?? 3 likes on your response Rukkirii, doesn't really solidify that this would be a great suggestion.. means it sucks..
    You say Rukkirii only had 3 likes? There are now 38. 38 > 7. lol

    There were a lot of middle ground ideas brought up in this thread so hopefully the best ones will be chosen or examined for a much more fuller and richer gaming and raiding experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geesus View Post
    This^

    I find it funny with all the threads talking or QQing about lack of content that speed runs seem to be all that groups do. Someone mentioned earlier about BCNMs in XI that posted a speed time and that was or could be a goal but as also stated wasn't what got you X Uber loot it got you the same loot whether a hour or 15 mins. But if content is so lacking and Yoshi and the Devs put in dungeons for us to have "fun" with, why was everyone trying to blow through it? Now you're out of ... CONTENT!

    Speed kills. Period. Kills the content kills the fun. I have YET to go through ANY of the newer dungeons with ANYONE including my LS that has actually tried to kill and complete the ENTIRE dungeon. As a matter of fact you have certain Dungeons such as DH that if you DON'T run through it, you're most likely going to die quite a bit due to the eye and his shenanigans.

    As for

    You say Rukkirii only had 3 likes? There are now 38. 38 > 7. lol

    There were a lot of middle ground ideas brought up in this thread so hopefully the best ones will be chosen or examined for a much more fuller and richer gaming and raiding experience.
    Had 3 likes when I posted it ... did you want me edit it everytime someone likes it?? no thanks..
    and 41 likes is in no way the thoughts of everyone, just Dev D**k riding..

    Either way I really don't even care what they to do this game.. so many people will cry and complain on these forums just to get what they want.. Its saddening..
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    Last edited by SynysterBlitz; 04-28-2012 at 11:09 PM. Reason: Edited for 41 likes to make the QQers happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by SynysterBlitz View Post
    Had 3 likes when I posted it ... did you want me edit it everytime someone likes it?? no thanks..
    and 41 likes is in no way the thoughts of everyone, just Dev D**k riding..

    Either way I really don't even care what they to do this game.. so many people will cry and complain on these forums just to get what they want.. Its saddening..
    Actually 41 to a dev post that's 30 posts deep in a thread with 20 posts after it isn't bad, imagine the number of ppl that simply don't read all of a thread, but just skip straight to the last page, all of them will have missed that post. Not to mention all the poeple that decided the rantings of a few ppl that can't tolerate change in the game they spent so long working to design ...

    Crying about people crying is still crying, lead by example.
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    Last edited by Enfarious; 04-28-2012 at 11:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enfarious View Post
    Actually 41 to a dev post that's 30 posts deep in a thread with 20 posts after it isn't bad, imagine the number of ppl that simply don't read all of a thread, but just skip straight to the last page, all of them will have missed that post. Not to mention all the poeple that decided the rantings of a few ppl that can't tolerate change in the game they spent so long working to design ...

    Crying about people crying is still crying, lead by example.
    Whats funny you were against this.. now you seem to support it? should be in politics man..

    If you want to misconscrue that as crying then by all means do so.. I don't care what happens to the game, I really don't I'll accept the changes either way.. I have never cried and complained for something to be changed, I have only defended aspects already in place..

    So take my words out of context if you wish.. It don't matter..
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