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    Isn’t this similar to how we had the 3 Tanks and 5 DPS on TOP? It was WAR/PLD/PLD then, but now with PCT I can understand how they can run 4 PLD. The run hinges on PCT’s performance to make up for the damage and push phases, though Healers in general are getting chucked pretty hard. Any other DPS that isn’t PCT would’ve made this probably run into Enrage possibly.

    Regardless, Yoshida needs to do something about this because if Ultimates are just No-Healer fodder, Healers are going to drop except for the likes of WHM, which is still relegated as the “baby healer” in some circles. AST/SCH/SGE won’t see the light of day outside of those who are just picking it up to try it in high-end until they figure it out themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Isn’t this similar to how we had the 3 Tanks and 5 DPS on TOP? It was WAR/PLD/PLD then, but now with PCT I can understand how they can run 4 PLD. The run hinges on PCT’s performance to make up for the damage and push phases, though Healers in general are getting chucked pretty hard. Any other DPS that isn’t PCT would’ve made this probably run into Enrage possibly.

    Regardless, Yoshida needs to do something about this because if Ultimates are just No-Healer fodder, Healers are going to drop except for the likes of WHM, which is still relegated as the “baby healer” in some circles. AST/SCH/SGE won’t see the light of day outside of those who are just picking it up to try it in high-end until they figure it out themselves.
    It doesn’t even rely on PCT because the two extra tanks are taking the spot of the healers and even with this clemency spamming they are doing more damage than the healers. So they are actually more efficient here than usual purely from a DPS perspective

    They just lose out on the healer 1% which adds up to a lot which is why the actual run is slower
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    but none of us have actually said anything other than mildly commenting on its existence [...]
    Quote Originally Posted by HyperiusUltima View Post
    Regardless, Yoshida needs to do something about this because if Ultimates are just No-Healer fodder, Healers are going to drop except for the likes of WHM, which is still relegated as the “baby healer” in some circles. AST/SCH/SGE won’t see the light of day outside of those who are just picking it up to try it in high-end until they figure it out themselves.
    Lmao

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    I loved how you jumped to your own defence and refute points you think we are going to make
    You mean like this?

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    Obligatory "It's Done By Highly Skilled Players in A Very Well Coordinated Party, No One Would Normally Do It, What Does it Matter" comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerkatie View Post
    Lmao



    You mean like this?
    You mean the one ironic meme comment and the one over dramatic comment

    Perish the thought. How will we ever survive
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You mean the one ironic meme comment and the one over dramatic comment

    Perish the thought. How will we ever survive
    So discussion and response isn't allowed because it's "overly dramatic" so that doesn't count in your mind as being a point. And the other is a meme, mine is taken at face value and understood differently.

    Very sound basis for discussion in a section called 'General Discussion'
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowerkatie View Post
    So discussion and response isn't allowed because it's "overly dramatic" so that doesn't count in your mind as being a point. And the other is a meme, mine is taken at face value and understood differently.

    Very sound basis for discussion in a section called 'General Discussion'
    One dramatic comment doesn’t prove your point when the other comment is obviously a meme.

    And since when did you want to “discuss” anything. You opened with “yall are just terrible” in your opening comment
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess