fflogs and privacy

[TaleraRistain]

Wanting to hide your fflogs is a massive red flag

this is also not the same as a literal stalking plugin

It's not remotely a red flag. People are sh*tty to others over logs when those others never touch endgame content. So any of us who do use them for their intended purpose should need to actively opt-in.

[Kaurhz]

It's not remotely a red flag. People are sh*tty to others over logs when those others never touch endgame content. So any of us who do use them for their intended purpose should need to actively opt-in.

I don't disagree that that it should be opt-in but...

To be honest, this is one of those situations where... The absence of information is almost always interpreted to be worse than the presence of it, as people can only assume the worse. So it typically does raise red flags with a lot of people due to the nature of the game.. - Now whether it should or not is a different discussion.

Also, honestly, most of the times I've seen people that are 'bad' to others, is when they try to interject into a conversation which they may not be suited towards being in. e.g., "Why are you having an opinion on this, when you haven't even actually done this". It's the same line of thinking of "Why are you talking about the story of this game, when you've skipped every cutscene"

[TaleraRistain]

I don't disagree that that it should be opt-in but...

To be honest, this is one of those situations where... The absence of information is almost always interpreted to be worse than the presence of it, as people can only assume the worse. So it typically does raise red flags with a lot of people due to the nature of the game.. - Now whether it should or not is a different discussion.

Also, honestly, most of the times I've seen people that are 'bad' to others, is when they try to interject into a conversation which they may not be suited towards being in. e.g., "Why are you having an opinion on this, when you haven't even actually done this". It's the same line of thinking of "Why are you talking about the story of this game, when you've skipped every cutscene"

The only reason the absence of information is interpreted as bad is because this process is opt-out. If it was opt-in and the data was anonymous otherwise, then it would be natural that there would be people who didn't have logs because they don't engage with the content that makes having an account on that site necessary.

And trust me, people are judging logs even in casual content. The stuff I hear and see in raiding Discords just makes me shake my head sometimes. I don't care what color the dps is parsing in Jeuno if they can't stay out of the AoEs and stop taking avoidable damage. And I also don't care if someone in a dungeon isn't doing their rotation right because we're not trying to beat enrage on a dungeon boss and if I looked at their logs I could see they've never even done an Extreme. But there are plenty who talk trash about these very people because they're obsessed with numbers.