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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Sorry i dont wanna be rude but whats that for a dumb example? Even synced down in the current state people will take a lvl 100 char instead of a lvl 60 char, doesnt matter the content, take example ShB or EW Ex Trials both are Level 80 or 90 and People still expect people to be lvl 100, so your example is not good at all
    ok I will exemple with more dept I was at work timed so forgive me for that haha but we will take Ifrit ex on that who will you pick between a LV 50 from the expension or someone that will be sync down to 50 but with the rotation of a LV 100?


    the answer will be the LV 100 because they do way more damage no matter what and it will also kill the boss way faster sadly killing both the experience of new player like imagine a viper sync with LV 50 skill and then see it in the same fight but with the LV 100 rotation who will be better? Even destroy the boss. asking to be able to use all skill at all LV. All dungeon become a joke destroying all balance in the game and even more with new player you could probably see it more into ultimate even more and they are made to challenge you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    ok I will exemple with more dept I was at work timed so forgive me for that haha but we will take Ifrit ex on that who will you pick between a LV 50 from the expension or someone that will be sync down to 50 but with the rotation of a LV 100?


    the answer will be the LV 100 because they do way more damage no matter what and it will also kill the boss way faster sadly killing both the experience of new player like imagine a viper sync with LV 50 skill and then see it in the same fight but with the LV 100 rotation who will be better? Even destroy the boss. asking to be able to use all skill at all LV. All dungeon become a joke destroying all balance in the game and even more with new player you could probably see it more into ultimate even more and they are made to challenge you
    Except other games that have level sync and let you keep your full kit have damage scalars that make sure someone at the lowest level possible for the dungeon does the same or more damage by spamming 1 ability. As has been said before, the bigger problem with it in XIV would be how dramatically utility, mitigation, and survivability tools improve at certain thresholds.
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    Player AvoSturmfaust's Avatar
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    Btw People forget one important thing, the kit we have now for lv50 as example is not the kit we had in the past, square enix deleted so many skills in the last years, and now we have nothing good and nothing fully suited for the lower content
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    Quote Originally Posted by AvoSturmfaust View Post
    Btw People forget one important thing, the kit we have now for lv50 as example is not the kit we had in the past, square enix deleted so many skills in the last years, and now we have nothing good and nothing fully suited for the lower content
    Thats another important thing, yeah. We used to have somewhere around 20-30 skills at level 50 in ARR, and ever since then, the amount of buttons have always roughly remained the same even though CS3 added ~5 new skills per class on each expansion, as older abilities were pruned.
    Of course that leaves classes in a more and more barebones state on lower levels the more expansions release.
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    So long, and thanks for all the fish.

    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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    Player AvoSturmfaust's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero-Voidstails View Post
    ok I will exemple with more dept I was at work timed so forgive me for that haha but we will take Ifrit ex on that who will you pick between a LV 50 from the expension or someone that will be sync down to 50 but with the rotation of a LV 100?


    the answer will be the LV 100 because they do way more damage no matter what and it will also kill the boss way faster sadly killing both the experience of new player like imagine a viper sync with LV 50 skill and then see it in the same fight but with the LV 100 rotation who will be better? Even destroy the boss. asking to be able to use all skill at all LV. All dungeon become a joke destroying all balance in the game and even more with new player you could probably see it more into ultimate even more and they are made to challenge you

    I get your first point, thats why i said i didnt want to sound rude haha, but to your second point the balance is already destroyed thats why i wouldnt balance be a consideration in this case, i mean look at how fast bosses are dying, doesnt matter of alli raid, dungeons etc etc etc if you get in a lower one, we are already at the point where you cant even see 50% of the shit bosses would do because everything is dying way too fast
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