Please let us keep our abilities on sync down

[Deniza]

Well I'm a dev, personally it doesn't seem worth the hassle to implement a whole new database of downgraded skill potencies, nevermind all the QA that would have to be done to see what outdated or even sync'd content like criterion or ultimate ends up breaking as a result. Players would rather battle team spend their time doing job rehaul in 8.0 rather than this play-it-safe meta we got in 7.0

If it isn't worth the hassle then maybe the game isn't worth the money.
Most people "disliking" the change so far in this thread stated that its hard work, too much work or impossible. Only one if I remember right said they would actually be sad if they wouldn't be able to use Stone or Aero because they outleveled this phase. Which I can respect. But saying "its too hard to do" I cannot sorry. Many other games showed its possible to do. The purpose of me starting this thread mainly is to open up and see how many ppl would like the same that I like.

Yes a rework of the jobs is in sight and I don't for a second even thought that even if this thread is read by the devs and even if they decide it was a good idea and even if they put it on their blackboard, that they would think about implementing it in 8.0. I thought to myself. "hey maybe 9.0 or 10.0." I know how long changes can take. But I despise hearing "its impossible" when it has been done multiple times in other games. Yes its hard work, everything is hard work with this engine most probably. But I am pretty sure it can be done. And if enough people want it and the devs see it and they actually think the same then maybe they even make it happen in 11.0.

I do think it is worth the hassle even if it takes time to implement and is written as "planned" below the blackboard in some corner.

[Lilapop]

Many other games showed its possible to do.

Okay. Are the many other games FF14?

[Clockworks]

Okay. Are the many other games FF14?

"99% of games did it"

you :

"WELL FFXIV IS THE 1% THATS NORMAL OKAY"

Small indie company strikes again, literally every company can do it, but for FFXIV and SE it's too hard to do.

Keep defending mediocrity.

[Lilapop]

"99% of games did it"

you :

"WELL FFXIV IS THE 1% THATS NORMAL OKAY"

Small indie company strikes again, literally every company can do it, but for FFXIV and SE it's too hard to do.

Keep defending mediocrity.

"we disagree therefore ur defending mediocrity"

No. Learn to read. I am literally stating objective facts. Those games are those games, this game is this game. I know, I know, how dare I speak ill of your beloved FF14.

[DPZ2]

If it isn't worth the hassle then maybe the game isn't worth the money.

That is a personal decision of every player of every video game. Ever.

Be prepared to be disappointed, and act accordingly. That's a gauge used by every gamer from Pong to the present.

And hassle, in this case, is defined by "does the company recuperate enough money to pay for changes over a relatively short period of time?", not by how difficult the coding might be.

Square Enix may be exceptionally averse to massive change without guaranteed returns, when you think about it.

[Atreus]

Well I'm a dev, personally it doesn't seem worth the hassle to implement a whole new database of downgraded skill potencies, nevermind all the QA that would have to be done to see what outdated or even sync'd content like criterion or ultimate ends up breaking as a result. Players would rather battle team spend their time doing job rehaul in 8.0 rather than this play-it-safe meta we got in 7.0

Ultimate would not and should not be impacted by a level sync overhaul, so that point is moot. Each ultimate encounter should be left exactly as intended.

You know any overhaul that's done in 8.0 is only going to be relevant for the max level, once again leaving behind another expansion that feels lame to go back and do content for. This is absolutely worth consideration because what, 80-90% of their game now is synced? So much content feels like ass to play right now and it doesn't have to be that way.

[technole]

Ultimate would not and should not be impacted by a level sync overhaul, so that point is moot. Each ultimate encounter should be left exactly as intended.

You know any overhaul that's done in 8.0 is only going to be relevant for the max level, once again leaving behind another expansion that feels lame to go back and do content for. This is absolutely worth consideration because what, 80-90% of their game now is synced? So much content feels like ass to play right now and it doesn't have to be that way.

Nope. Old ultimates and any sync'd content gets slightly easier each expansion because they do adjust potencies, traits, and other things for lower-than-max level skills. Nevermind new jobs tend to come out of the gate with higher than usual potencies at all levels, like a certain painting job. So yes it does matter if every skill needed a database entry for different level points, that's more work for so little gain. The thought process with MMO is make both throwaway and also some content they can future-proof to some extent like criterion and ultimates and move on.

[Atreus]

Nope. Old ultimates and any sync'd content gets slightly easier each expansion because they do adjust potencies, traits, and other things for lower-than-max level skills. Nevermind new jobs tend to come out of the gate with higher than usual potencies at all levels, like a certain painting job. So yes it does matter if every skill needed a database entry for different level points, that's more work for so little gain. The thought process with MMO is make both throwaway and also some content they can future-proof to some extent like criterion and ultimates and move on.

Okay? Then any argument about a level sync rework affecting "balance" is a worthless argument when the balance, as it stands, is a joke.

[Deniza]

Ultimate would not and should not be impacted by a level sync overhaul, so that point is moot. Each ultimate encounter should be left exactly as intended.

You know any overhaul that's done in 8.0 is only going to be relevant for the max level, once again leaving behind another expansion that feels lame to go back and do content for. This is absolutely worth consideration because what, 80-90% of their game now is synced? So much content feels like ass to play right now and it doesn't have to be that way.

Ultimate is changed every time they change abilities and move them to a lower level. When they rework jobs like SMN, when they put in new jobs like PCT.
It never is as it was on release.

[Buttobi]

It would be a huge time investment but I think when leveling up jobs by doing old content is such a large portion of the game, the devs should consider that maybe this huge investment is worth it. It feels worse every expansion to do old content cause of the gimped rotations.