Maybe it's time for a casual "strike" if not complete departure.

[yesnt]

Why aren't these games the more appealing venue when they are by every metric the obvious choice?

Because they are not Final Fantasy. There is a good chunk of people who love the lore and the world of Final Fantasy specifically.

[AllenThyl]

Because they are not Final Fantasy. There is a good chunk of people who love the lore and the world of Final Fantasy specifically.

And which Final Fantasy game offered a huge amount of customization but no combat, or at least no combat that one actually had to engage with a little bit?

[yesnt]

And which Final Fantasy game offered a huge amount of customization but no combat, or at least no combat that one actually had to engage with a little bit?

Wait... there are more FF MMOs? Can I have a link pls?

[VanillaWafer]

Wait... there are more FF MMOs? Can I have a link pls?

Just FF11.

[AllenThyl]

Wait... there are more FF MMOs? Can I have a link pls?

???
Is there some hidden camera?
So people played some Final Fantasy which didn't have a lot of customization and features combat content throughout the whole game, including some actual roadblocks. And because of that experience, they went and played the (2nd) Final Fantasy MMO, which has a bit of character customization but not much and also features quite a bit of combat content the whole game (the MSQ is exclusively for combat classes). Yet the lack of customization and the the necessity of combat content are severe product defects, but they still give their money to this service and not other offerings that fulfill more of the stated requirements because ... it's a Final Fantasy?
???

W-what? That's as non-sequitur as it can get. Especially when the expectation is "Final Fantasy, but MMO", then FF14 is ironically perfect, because it features a lot of combat content (and the main quest is all combat content), some side content to dabble in other activities, even getting gear for the combat side, and some powerful optional bosses. And yet it's the release of an optional boss that gives an optional hairstyle that's seen as "unacceptable".

[Lilapop]

???
Is there some hidden camera?
So people played some Final Fantasy which didn't have a lot of customization and features combat content throughout the whole game, including some actual roadblocks. And because of that experience, they went and played the (2nd) Final Fantasy MMO, which has a bit of character customization but not much and also features quite a bit of combat content the whole game (the MSQ is exclusively for combat classes). Yet the lack of customization and the the necessity of combat content are severe product defects, but they still give their money to this service and not other offerings that fulfill more of the stated requirements because ... it's a Final Fantasy?
???

W-what? That's as non-sequitur as it can get. Especially when the expectation is "Final Fantasy, but MMO", then FF14 is ironically perfect, because it features a lot of combat content (and the main quest is all combat content), some side content to dabble in other activities, even getting gear for the combat side, and some powerful optional bosses. And yet it's the release of an optional boss that gives an optional hairstyle that's seen as "unacceptable".

How is this an acceptable reply to someone asking for a link to FF11...? Good lord man, calm down.

[AllenThyl]

How is this an acceptable reply to someone asking for a link to FF11...? Good lord man, calm down.

How is "wait, are there more FF MMOs?" an answer to the question "And which Final Fantasy game offered a huge amount of customization but no combat, or at least no combat that one actually had to engage with a little bit?", especially when my question was literally quoted before? Especially when "the lore and world of Final Fantasy" was used as an argument, like it's a single monolith and not a 30 something year old series of different, lore-wise mostly independent games. Even more especially when the FF14 world and lore is also completely separate from all other installments.

[yesnt]

but they still give their money to this service and not other offerings that fulfill more of the stated requirements because ... it's a Final Fantasy?

Yes

Especially when the expectation is "Final Fantasy, but MMO", then FF14 is ironically perfect, because it features a lot of combat content (and the main quest is all combat content), some side content to dabble in other activities, even getting gear for the combat side, and some powerful optional bosses. And yet it's the release of an optional boss that gives an optional hairstyle that's seen as "unacceptable".

No

Explaining not necessary since people have explained it to you with multiple posts before me and you are just here to ragebait.

[AllenThyl]

Yes

And now you know the reason why the developers don't need to spend precious developer resources to develop "casual" content.

No

Yeah, video game addiction. The "enshittification" of services is the direct result of consumers mindlessly and recklessly hanging on a business despite being unhappy with the service. That's not the flex you think it is.

[yesnt]

And now you know the reason why the developers don't need to spend precious developer resources to develop "casual" content.



Yeah, video game addiction. The "enshittification" of services is the direct result of consumers mindlessly and recklessly hanging on a business despite being unhappy with the service. That's not the flex you think it is.

ok.

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