Maybe it's time for a casual "strike" if not complete departure.

[Rueby]

I'm someone who enjoys extremes and occasionally dabbles into savages (I can clear if I want to)....I really want casual content. I'm sick of logging in, doing my weekly unreal...then like afk to watch youtube vids...

Maybe I should unlock mentor roul or something...but effort..

[IceEyes]

The battle between casuals and hardcore gamers will never end. But if casuals are game blood, then hardcore gamers are brains. They are a single whole, part of one eco-system.

It is quite natural that these two parts of the community always "dislike" each other a little, but nevertheless, it is not the fault of both groups that what is happening.

Only the publishing company and its approach to manufacturing products are to blame.

Now the problems in game, like a snowball, only accumulate into a larger lump, affecting an increasing number of players. Having nowhere to relieve stress, they begin to get angry at each other, more then usually. I think most of people right now need really take a long rest from this game, or trying something new.

[NamiRocket]

Man, I love you guys.

[CidHeiral]

I don't understand why hardcore raiders feel this way

They don't, OP is being melodramatic.

The rest of the expansion will have an entire exploratory zone presumably with more normal raids, an Ishgard restoration level crafting zone, relic weapons, Blue Mage content, Beastmaster content, and I'm sure plenty of other non-hardcore stuff. I can empathize with being frustrated that it's not all here right now, but trying to argue that casuals are some persecuted and forgotten class of people is absolutely ridiculous. Most of the content in the game caters to casuals and will continue to do so.

[Lilapop]

They don't, OP is being melodramatic.

The rest of the expansion will have an entire exploratory zone presumably with more normal raids, an Ishgard restoration level crafting zone, relic weapons, Blue Mage content, Beastmaster content, and I'm sure plenty of other non-hardcore stuff. I can empathize with being frustrated that it's not all here right now, but trying to argue that casuals are some persecuted and forgotten class of people is absolutely ridiculous. Most of the content in the game caters to casuals and will continue to do so.

You forgot the rest of the Savage raids, the Savage difficulty raid that'll come WITH that exploration zone, and presumably more extreme content. If you're going to say whats coming, don't filter out the stuff that doesn't support your point.

[hydralus]

I don't own stock in Square Enix and it's also not the only videogame in existence so I will continue to live a happy life should the servers shut down. Thanks for the memories.

[CidHeiral]

You forgot the rest of the Savage raids, the Savage difficulty raid that'll come WITH that exploration zone, and presumably more extreme content. If you're going to say whats coming, don't filter out the stuff that doesn't support your point.

LOL what? The fact that there will also be non-casual content has nothing to do with there being lots of casual content on the way. Both things can be true.

What you just said is like if someone claimed there are no hamburgers on the McDonald's menu, then someone else listed all the hamburgers, then you responded "uhmm acchhktually you left out the fries and milkshakes, don't filter out stuff that doesn't support your point."

[St0rmy]

Thank goodness, I'm tired of getting 20+ minute dungeon runs or having to rez the same person 20 times in a single fight.

[NamiRocket]

What you just said is like if someone claimed there are no hamburgers on the McDonald's menu, then someone else listed all the hamburgers, then you responded "uhmm acchhktually you left out the fries and milkshakes, don't filter out stuff that doesn't support your point."

Yeah, I dunno, man. I read all of their replies with my head in my hands.

[Thaciscokidd]

The "filthy casual" mindset is a bleed over of toxicity from WoW refugees. Just blacklist them and move on.

What no. It's been around since at least Coils turn 5. Its nothing new. Its more pronounced now just because there's nothing else to distract people.