Quote Originally Posted by MisterNublet View Post
Thought I'd help get other players their clears and joined a dozen "enrage/clear" parties over the last 5 hours and not a single time did the alliance make it past swap.

I could have used that time to join farm parties and gotten half of the demi I would have gotten if one of these parties actually cleared the fight. The bonus is a trap while the limsa rpers wipe the instance repeatedly hoping the 23 other players will carry them to a new haircut.
If they got to swap then they are not Limsa afkers anymore because they cleared the mechanics beforehand.
Swap is just a stupid mechanic in a 24 man.
You have:
Proximity based swapping so if one person stands slightly wrong or is dead the big confusion begins.
Parties are literally broken apart.
People needing to adjust with different directions (A-C) or entirely different mechanics (A-B-C).
You have pairs / spread with other players NOT in your party chat or as your focus target.
You have B side where several people can die if others don’t move normal.

All that can lead too easy to a wipe.
There is a reason why the guide even mentions using tank lb there.
I even see players with legend titles and savage gear screw up there.

So no it has nothing to do with limsa afkers or people wanting to get carried so late in a fight.
It’s just people failing a stupid mechanic for a 24 man by either overestimating themself and joining clear parties or just making simple mistakes.
With 24 people everyone can easily screw up and the mechanics there punish it extremely hard.

I agree that there are far too many wipes for clear parties but that just shows how unforgiving the mechanics actually are because so late in the fight the people who wanted to get carried or 08/15 the raid got already filtered out.