Chaotic Alliance Raid is a fun fight, but awful content

[Kaurhz]

Genuinely feel like you just reworded the thing I argued against...

MSQ should be a tad harder, yes, so braincells have to be used. If the sole purpose of having MSQ be harder is "hey u did the raid and u got raid gear time to do raiding... yknow... just in case..." then the game would be heading into a direction only raiders would favor, as it currently is in this expansion.

Because it feels like you misunderstood the point I was making, making the MSQ be a tad harder addresses the very point you were arguing against in my post. Either you misunderstood or you were severely overestimating what I meant by better preparing players and creating a smoother transition.

If players aren't confident or feel like they aren't prepared (which many don't), then they are going to be less inclined to try, similarly if those in the community actively doing that content don't feel like they are prepared for it. I'm not saying it's the only issue, but it's a massive part of an issue that has festered for very long and keeps creeping up from time to time whenever they try content like this.

The point was that fun only really comes for many players when they are prepared for it, and not overwhelmed, and the MSQ experience alone creates the situation where players are overwhelmed fairly easily. If they are less overwhelmed then they will be more inclined to try and have fun. It's not really about treating it as the situation where... "Oh you did MSQ, therefore you must do raiding content, and therefore more content must be designed around that", which is how I am understanding your interpretation of what I said, based on your last paragraph.

[Lilapop]

Because it feels like you misunderstood the point I was making, making the MSQ be a tad harder addresses the very point you were arguing against in my post. Either you misunderstood or you were severely overestimating what I meant by better preparing players and creating a smoother transition.

If players aren't confident or feel like they aren't prepared (which many don't), then they are going to be less inclined to try, similarly if those in the community actively doing that content don't feel like they are prepared for it. I'm not saying it's the only issue, but it's a massive part of an issue that has festered for very long and keeps creeping up from time to time whenever they try content like this.

The point was that fun only really comes for many players when they are prepared for it, and not overwhelmed, and the MSQ experience alone creates the situation where players are overwhelmed fairly easily. If they are less overwhelmed then they will be more inclined to try and have fun. It's not really about treating it as the situation where... "Oh you did MSQ, therefore you must do raiding content, and therefore more content must be designed around that", which is how I am understanding your interpretation of what I said, based on your last paragraph.

That is how I interpreted it, I see and agree with your point for the most part. While I would never personally advocate for MSQ to be brought up to either the difficulty level or gear level (gearing up passively is easy in and of itself and the gearing up treadmill is a whole other discussion), the game does do a terrible job at teaching the player anything other than face-mash keyboard and you can get through the main content, every other bit of combat in the game takes some actual braincells to do and as the chaotic raid has shown us, the average player who only does MSQ is definitely way under prepared.