Don't do chaotic raid again

[Havenchild]

There are definitely things to criticize in this raid and it is correct to criticize yet another higher difficulty content in a row instead of something else.
This has also nothing to do with getting better because you are dependent on 23 other people compared to the usual 7 and yes some mechanics ARE overly punishing like the towers in phase 2 wiping the whole raid and the back to back mechanics are visually cluttering.

Towers might literally be the one bottlenecking mechanic in the entire fight and I got to it in 30m of prog on pf and past it in the same instance. It's not that hard to get to or get passed assuming everyone's alive. Alternatively, once you get to a certain point where you are good with prog, jump to another party at the next phase. PF is moving fast through it with clear parties already present so clearly its not that bad.

You can get better but you can't get better teammates and 24 player content has a whole load of points of failure other than yourself. You either need to somehow put together a static for a one-off 24 player fight with no real rewards or deal with the inevitable skill issues of PF.

In 8 player content, if everyone makes a mistake 1/8 pulls then the fight becomes statistically unclearable. In 24 player content, that becomes 1/24 pulls. And the average PF enjoyer can barely make it through 1 pull without wiping the raid, never mind 24.

There's a very good reason that the wider MMO landscape has moved away from 40 player raiding in favour of <10 player raiding over the years.

I don't buy its this strict. Nor this much of an issue, least for chaotic raid. As mentioned, PF on aether seems to be moving pretty quickly through prog. This is on par with Shinryu EX /Thordan Ex at best, which is something we can aim for when we already have piss easy alliance raids.