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    Lilapop's Avatar
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    Lila Pop
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    Faerie
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Stop being anti-social and...join discords dedicated to running this content? People still run Baldesion Arsenal / Delibrium Reginae (Savage) /Blue Mage Raids daily/weekly so if you really want to do this content, you will be able to no matter how removed from release it is.



    The point is the content is clearly out of season or if the replayability is only based on glam well...once you acquire it...you're done. There's nothing wrong with having content like that and there's nothing wrong with finding a dedicated group for it.
    Not wanting to use Discord to run in-game content doesn't make someone anti-social. It means... they don't want to have Discord a required use to play the game?
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    Rena Clock
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    Belias
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    Not wanting to use Discord to run in-game content doesn't make someone anti-social. It means... they don't want to have Discord a required use to play the game?
    you can totaly find ppl to do them in-game or official community tools.
    I did DRS in EW from community finder.
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    Havenchild's Avatar
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    Avalen Koma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilapop View Post
    Not wanting to use Discord to run in-game content doesn't make someone anti-social. It means... they don't want to have Discord a required use to play the game?
    Funny, because you don't need discord to do this content either, but it definitely speeds up the process of finding a group versus sitting in PF for awhile. If you want to go the long way, you dont NEED discord, it just significantly saves you time in recruitment.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin View Post
    I don't appreciate you attacking me for having an opinion different from yours. For your information, I suffer from social anxiety, and it's not something I can just simply turn off. I do join Discord tho and power through my anxiety but at some point, I get really tired of having to join 50 different discord just to be able to find a group to clear content in the game for glam. I stand by my point "What is the point of PF if we have to use discord to even for this type of content." Either way, maybe next time don't be so rude to someone you don't know.
    Ahh yes, the classic retort, complains content is dead or hard to recruit -> someone suggests joining active discords that still prog this content -> materialize the social anxiety answer.

    If Discord, which really is just a time saver here, is such an inconvenience for you, then frankly you don't deserve any of the rewards. Let your anxiety roadblock you for as long as you let it. I will never get the social anxiety excuse, while playing a massive multiplayer online game which tends to have goals oriented around party play... talk about living an oxymoron.
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    Last edited by Havenchild; 12-25-2024 at 06:05 PM.

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    Jessa Marko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Funny, because you don't need discord to do this content either, but it definitely speeds up the process of finding a group versus sitting in PF for awhile. If you want to go the long way, you dont NEED discord, it just significantly saves you time in recruitment.



    Ahh yes, the classic retort, complains content is dead or hard to recruit -> someone suggests joining active discords that still prog this content -> materialize the social anxiety answer.

    If Discord, which really is just a time saver here, is such an inconvenience for you, then frankly you don't deserve any of the rewards. Let your anxiety roadblock you for as long as you let it. I will never get the social anxiety excuse, while playing a massive multiplayer online game which tends to have goals oriented around party play... talk about living an oxymoron.
    Have you ever bothered to ask, or do you prefer to just mock?

    Many people who suffer from social anxiety are attracted to MMOs. The fact they are socially anxious does not mean they dislike others. Frequently it's quite the reverse. They crave connection with other human beings, which is difficult to obtain IRL when social situations produce not only fear but in some cases profound physiological effects.

    An MMO is for many such people a safer environment for the simple reason that if things get weird, there's an off switch. Getting on Discord voice with complete strangers is a very different experience from doing a DF dungeon.

    Really shocked at such a callous attitude, particularly at this time of year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Funny, because you don't need discord to do this content either, but it definitely speeds up the process of finding a group versus sitting in PF for awhile. If you want to go the long way, you dont NEED discord, it just significantly saves you time in recruitment.



    Ahh yes, the classic retort, complains content is dead or hard to recruit -> someone suggests joining active discords that still prog this content -> materialize the social anxiety answer.

    If Discord, which really is just a time saver here, is such an inconvenience for you, then frankly you don't deserve any of the rewards. Let your anxiety roadblock you for as long as you let it. I will never get the social anxiety excuse, while playing a massive multiplayer online game which tends to have goals oriented around party play... talk about living an oxymoron.
    At least Im not a rude troll who doesn't have any feelings toward others. I really hope one day you know the feeling of having a disorder other bully you for. Have nice day....
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    Lila Pop
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Funny, because you don't need discord to do this content either, but it definitely speeds up the process of finding a group versus sitting in PF for awhile. If you want to go the long way, you dont NEED discord, it just significantly saves you time in recruitment.



    Ahh yes, the classic retort, complains content is dead or hard to recruit -> someone suggests joining active discords that still prog this content -> materialize the social anxiety answer.

    If Discord, which really is just a time saver here, is such an inconvenience for you, then frankly you don't deserve any of the rewards. Let your anxiety roadblock you for as long as you let it. I will never get the social anxiety excuse, while playing a massive multiplayer online game which tends to have goals oriented around party play... talk about living an oxymoron.
    All I'm saying is you may like relying on Discord for as much of the game as you play, not everyone shares that opinion. I personally enjoy being able to play the game without needing an organized Discord and VC for every little thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin View Post
    My issue with this type of content is it always ends up as dead content after the first wave of ppl have cleared it. I still cant find groups to do criterion duns with and chaotic raid is going to be worst bc you need 6x more ppl. I hate it bc there is always something locked behind this content I really want. For Criterion it was the glow version of the last tier tomestone weapons. God, I want my avatar rpr weapon so badly. I going to try to do this new 24 man this weekend but I know if I don't clear before everyone gets bored with it, I will never get to clear it and even more rewards are locked behind died content. I know the community says they want something new but every time we do get something new it dies so fast...
    I just learned that there is not just one mount but TWO mounts for this fight and honestly, that pisses me off even more. To be honest I didn't know all the rewards for this fight, I just knew there was gear, the shoad of darkness mount, and the hairstyle. Today I learned you get a tile of darkness mount as well...WHY DOES THIS FIGHT HAVE SO MANY DAMN REWARDS!?! The main thing is there is no f'ing reason for the hairstyle to be locked behind this damn fight and because it will die off like crit dun the hairstyle price on the MB will never drop that much...it most likely will stay in the 100 mil range. This fight doesn't need 2 mounts, 730 gear, and a hairstyle... The gear and the mounts are enough...
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin View Post
    I just learned that there is not just one mount but TWO mounts for this fight and honestly, that pisses me off even more. To be honest I didn't know all the rewards for this fight, I just knew there was gear, the shoad of darkness mount, and the hairstyle. Today I learned you get a tile of darkness mount as well...WHY DOES THIS FIGHT HAVE SO MANY DAMN REWARDS!?! The main thing is there is no f'ing reason for the hairstyle to be locked behind this damn fight and because it will die off like crit dun the hairstyle price on the MB will never drop that much...it most likely will stay in the 100 mil range. This fight doesn't need 2 mounts, 730 gear, and a hairstyle... The gear and the mounts are enough...
    The content will die because nobody wants to do it

    Don’t give it rewards because the content will die

    Like I don’t know who this content is for but ripping rewards out of it is exactly the easiest way to ensuring that the content WILL die. And I’m happy to sacrifice mounts and hairstyles for content I won’t do to keep it alive. Content should lock good and desirable rewards
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Rose Blackstorm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The content will die because nobody wants to do it

    Don’t give it rewards because the content will die

    Like I don’t know who this content is for but ripping rewards out of it is exactly the easiest way to ensuring that the content WILL die. And I’m happy to sacrifice mounts and hairstyles for content I won’t do to keep it alive. Content should lock good and desirable rewards
    My only issue is the hairstyle...the mounts are fine to be in content like this but a hairstyle? If this content has to have gear, 2 mounts, a minion, and a hairstyle just to keep it alive then it shouldn't been made in the first place IMO. The mounts, gear and even the minion should be enough reward for this type of content. My only issue is the hairstyle.
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    Vim Mercer
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    Alpha
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MrJPtheAssassin View Post
    I just learned that there is not just one mount but TWO mounts for this fight and honestly, that pisses me off even more. To be honest I didn't know all the rewards for this fight, I just knew there was gear, the shoad of darkness mount, and the hairstyle. Today I learned you get a tile of darkness mount as well...WHY DOES THIS FIGHT HAVE SO MANY DAMN REWARDS!?! The main thing is there is no f'ing reason for the hairstyle to be locked behind this damn fight and because it will die off like crit dun the hairstyle price on the MB will never drop that much...it most likely will stay in the 100 mil range. This fight doesn't need 2 mounts, 730 gear, and a hairstyle... The gear and the mounts are enough...
    As much as I enjoy keeping Square Enix accountable for their mistakes - Yoshi-P did promise an uptick in rewards for players, and more player rewards is generally a good thing. So I guess that promise is kinda being worked on.
    Now, all these rewards behind an experimental bit of content where the longevity is not a given... thats definitely a questionable choice.

    Though, CS3 seem a bit weird with how they space out the rewards, are they not? They add the joke weapons, but only make them drop in map dungeons. They release a PvP Patch, and don't really add any PvP rewards. Then they release another Savage level raid, with 2 mounts, interesting looking gear and a hairstyle design contest winner.
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    So long, and thanks for all the fish.

    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 30/07/2024. It was a fun month.

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