How not to be a mentor

[Supersnow845]

In a competent group we have a lot of tools and are powerful. But as someone who only does pugs, I’ve seen it all and there are a lot of unoptimized groups of players who don’t know the content they are in, don’t have gear, don’t use their tools, and are stressful to heal.

My whole point is roulettes have so many variables on teammates and their gear and skill, yiu cannot claim a gcd heal is never needed unless the healer doesn’t know what they are doing.

Now that poster has their own agenda which is clear in their signature line and post history, so they will never admit that not all players have the same blessed experience as he in never needing a gcd heal in our gameplay history.

1) I never said you never need a GCD heal, I said you shouldn’t need to be spamming adlo for half of every encounter even if the tank is terrible. Use your oGcd’s, SCH is literally drowning in them, like I cannot explain enough how overpowered SCH is, it’s literally the strongest class in the games history. SCH’s oGCD’s can pump out tens of thousands of potency of healing per minute

2) I have no idea why my signature conveys that I have a blessed experience, I simply know how to press the overwhelming amount of oGCD’s we have, one or two adlos are fine, if you are regularly pressing as many adlo’s as OP does then something is wrong with your understanding of the class (this isn’t an attack on OP, this is an observation)

3) if I’m the one with the agenda why are you defending OP to the death that none of this advice is valid even as more information comes out that they may not be playing as well as they originally claimed to be

[Rikizza]

1) I never said you never need a GCD heal, I said you shouldn’t need to be spamming adlo for half of every encounter even if the tank is terrible. Use your oGcd’s, SCH is literally drowning in them, like I cannot explain enough how overpowered SCH is, it’s literally the strongest class in the games history. SCH’s oGCD’s can pump out tens of thousands of potency of healing per minute

2) I have no idea why my signature conveys that I have a blessed experience, I simply know how to press the overwhelming amount of oGCD’s we have, one or two adlos are fine, if you are regularly pressing as many adlo’s as OP does then something is wrong with your understanding of the class (this isn’t an attack on OP, this is an observation)

3) if I’m the one with the agenda why are you defending OP to the death that none of this advice is valid even as more information comes out that they may not be playing as well as they originally claimed to be

He probably said «your blessed experience» because you make it seem like you have never struggled as a healer ever. Have you never been in a party of either newbies or just incompetent people and it made you have to heal a lot?

[Supersnow845]

He probably said «your blessed experience» because you make it seem like you have never struggled as a healer ever. Have you never been in a party of either newbies or just incompetent people and it made you have to heal a lot?

Yes but not to the degree that’s being implied here

In the modern game if you understand your oGCD’s the most paper thin tank can be kept up with at most 2-3 adlo’s. If you are spending half your time casting adlo thats a problem with understanding of the job. We simply have too many heals relative to outgoing damage to need constant GCD healing even if the tank is useless

Like you have aetherflow, you have blessing and whispering dawn, you have seraph and seraphism, you have recitation and dissipation for more aetherflow, you have embrace and fey union, you have prepull shields, the output is simply ridiculous to the incoming damage

[ZephyrMenodora]

3) if I’m the one with the agenda why are you defending OP to the death that none of this advice is valid even as more information comes out that they may not be playing as well as they originally claimed to be

My response isn’t restricted to the OP - but the fact pattern they presented. If they lied that’s another issue but doesn’t change my main viewpoints as to how players should treat strangers they meet in roulettes.

I also never said none of rhe advice was valid. It probably was. But constantly berating a player, even if they are truly bad at the game, isn’t acceptable to me. Giving feedback and letting someone do with it what they will - so long as they are not preventing the dungeon from being completed - should be enough.

I don’t even know why anyone would even want to spend their energy nitpicking another player for their casts. It seems exhausting and most players simply don’t take this game that seriously. - because it is just that. A game.

As I said - all I do is pug and if I sat and complained about every bad player I’ve met I’d just be miserable half the time I play, and be miserable to be around. It’s not necessary. Especially when the person at the other end of thr screen is likely some casual just trying to enjoy some free time after a long day.

[Supersnow845]

My response isn’t restricted to the OP - but the fact pattern they presented. If they lied that’s another issue but doesn’t change my main viewpoints as to his players should treat strangers they meet in roulettes.

I also never said none of rhe advice was valid. It probably was. But constantly berating a player, even if they are truly bad at the game, isn’t acceptable to me. Giving feedback and letting someone do with it what they will - so long as they are not preventing the dungeon from being completed - should be enough.

I don’t even know why anyone would even want to spend their energy nitpicking another player for their casts. It seems exhausting and most players simply don’t take this game that seriously. - because it is just that. A game.

As I said - all I do is pug and if I sat and complained about every bad player I’ve met I’d just be miserable half the time I play, and be miserable to be around. It’s not necessary. Especially when the person at the other end of thr screen is likely some casual just trying to enjoy some free time after a long day.

I don’t bother to nitpick anyone else in game either, my point was simply that defending OP on here (not in game) if they are regularly getting this kind of feedback (which is implied by the fact that they posted about it) the easiest solution is to just fix the root cause and not ask for validation on the forums

[ZephyrMenodora]

I don’t bother to nitpick anyone else in game either, my point was simply that defending OP on here (not in game) if they are regularly getting this kind of feedback (which is implied by the fact that they posted about it) the easiest solution is to just fix the root cause and not ask for validation on the forums

In an ideal world, feedback would be taken to heart and every gamer due to us being gamers would want to improve. But if someone doesn’t want to - I’d just push through the roulette rather than make them feel bad for being bad. Most of the time I’ll drop a comment and if they won’t listen then oh well. I’ve been in some irritatingly long roulettes due to some of these issues but arguing usually makes them stop and type more and the run takes even longer.