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  1. 12-13-2024 04:41 AM

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    Dastan Twillane
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    Nobody likes mentors just because they're mentors. They like other friendly players who just happened to have a crown. When you really get down to it, it doesn't matter if he had a mentor crown or not. It was just an unpleasant player and those exist with and without Burger King crowns. A lot of people are simply doing it for the status and mount, with no intention of actually helping out players in a friendly manner. I'm sure there are a few players that take some pride in being a mentor for good reasons though.
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    Veya Akemi
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    It entirely depends which healing spell it was.

    If it was Benefic II/Cure II/E. Diagnosis/Adlo, it was out of line to call them out on it.

    If it was Benefic/Cure/Diagnosis/Physick, the Healer was out of line for even using those spells to begin with.
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    Shinobu Yoshiharu
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    I have an inkling that the mentor is in the right in this case.

    Just an inkling.
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    Aries Helle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshihara View Post
    I have an inkling that the mentor is in the right in this case.

    Just an inkling.
    Maybe, and even though I'm more suspicious of the OP than the mentor, if you're spamming holy and glare and what not and decide to throw in a medica III or a cure 2 for whatever reason and ppl start "well, actually you should be min maxing this way" it can be pretty annoying. It's an expert dungeon, not an ultimate, you do not have to be sweating frames and trying to constantly slidecast with 0 clipping for an expert dungeon. That's downright annoying to be fair.

    So the point is there is too much unkowns here to really make a judgment.
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    If you're using healing spells in a dungeon and then getting mad at being pointed out for it, I'm going to assume you're the one in the wrong. These dungeons can be done entirely without a healer, there's no reason to be using healing GCDs at all in them. Also "feeling safe to do so" lol it's always safe.
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    Zephyr Menodora
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    If you're using healing spells in a dungeon and then getting mad at being pointed out for it, I'm going to assume you're the one in the wrong. These dungeons can be done entirely without a healer, there's no reason to be using healing GCDs at all in them. Also "feeling safe to do so" lol it's always safe.
    Another myopic comment as though there are not tons of variables in team-member performance in roulettes. Most basic players aren't terminally on the forums and perfecting gameplay.
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    Another myopic comment as though there are not tons of variables in team-member performance in roulettes. Most basic players aren't terminally on the forums and perfecting gameplay.
    So if you aren’t “terminally on the forums optimising gameplay” you should be grateful for the offered feedback on how to improve as a healer. OP’s stance is basically “since I’m not sandbagging advice is invalid”

    If you are using holy but using cure 2 over solace that’s a point a mentor can and should point out. If your response is “well yes but it’s not like I’m a heal bot” that’s not really the mentors fault especially when you have the added circumstances of the fact that like the person you replied to said for an even semi competent tank a healer isn’t even needed. While this was obviously done to reduce healer stress it instead just makes people want them to perform harder because otherwise they are wasting a party slot so to speak
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Raraka Raka
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    Brynhildr
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    Dear OP, I believe you can do better

    Something that may be a bit hard is to separate the bad and good parts of criticism. When someone critices you in a bad way, I encourage you to filter out the frustration from that person and only keep the valuable information for yourself

    If in this example, you leave with the mentality of "Man mentor sucks" instead of "I wonder how can I improve this" then you lost. Think about it as, you being better than them, you shouldnt let their bad words get into your head, but at the same time, try to understand where the unasked advice is coming from

    Here is a unrelated personal experience, my own mentor moment if you will: I did a expert roulette and got smileton (Early endwalker), trough the run I noticed things were dying... slowly, then I noticed the summoner was only using summons in bosses, and ruin the rest of the time. By the last pull before the final boss, the feeling of frustration was building up on me (as I was a SMN mainly player at the time), so I asked, "is there a reason why you are only using ruin?", and a couple minutes later after the boss, the other dps replied "My wife doesnt play much videogames, but she would appreciate if you could elaborate further"

    With that, my hearth sunk, I was feeling frustration for someone doing their best, and, as requested I explained gemshines and how summons can be rotated without much issue, blah blah blah... but it always stuck to me how, well, ANYONE can be playing on the other side of the screen. So for anyone that took the time to read this, please, try to be mindfull of how you bring things up in chat
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  10. 12-13-2024 02:52 PM
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    [nah, just pretend i'm not here.]

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