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  1. #21
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    It was yuweyawata field station and I was't being a healing bot. Not that any of that makes it ok to badger anyone, let alone another mentor, about what they use duriing w2w trash pulls when their primary healsing spells are on cooldown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealSylph View Post
    It was yuweyawata field station and I was't being a healing bot. Not that any of that makes it ok to badger anyone, let alone another mentor, about what they use duriing w2w trash pulls when their primary healsing spells are on cooldown.
    You are correct. There is no reason for this.

    If the mentor has decided they "need" to grace another player with their wisdom (eye-roll imminent), perhaps they should give advice once and then drop it. Their constant complaining probably made the run go even longer than if they just shut up and played.
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    People need to calm down, if you were doing damage spells when you could then that's fine honestly, and frankly you're only as good with your healing as what the tank is with managing their mitigation. It's a problem that only applies in a vacuum. Regardless of this though, I wouldn't put too much thought in it. Some people just need to learn the subtle art of providing meaningful feedback. Not all feedback is meaningful.

    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealSylph View Post
    It was yuweyawata field station and I was't being a healing bot. Not that any of that makes it ok to badger anyone, let alone another mentor, about what they use duriing w2w trash pulls when their primary healsing spells are on cooldown.
    I can assure you, you are not required to justify or rationalize yourself to random forum users' skepticisms about what went wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealSylph View Post
    It was yuweyawata field station and I was't being a healing bot. Not that any of that makes it ok to badger anyone, let alone another mentor, about what they use duriing w2w trash pulls when their primary healsing spells are on cooldown.
    What exactly did they say. Because if you are offended they gave you good advice then you are the problem. Mentors are supposed to give advice, and fragile people unable to take any criticism is the reason barely any say anything.

    You have to be specific about the exact phrasing they used and what they said, how do we know we aren't feeding your entitled ego of "no one can tell me anything" instead of being reasonable, only by posting receipts will we know if you are right or wrong/ Do not identify any players however.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I can assure you, you are not required to justify or rationalize yourself to random forum users' skepticisms about what went wrong.
    And actually, they absolutely do need to justify and rationalize if they are going to put a title in their thread about how others should behave. People are allowed to question why they are being to told to do or not do something.
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    Last edited by Ath192; 12-13-2024 at 07:06 AM.

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    I have an inkling that the mentor is in the right in this case.

    Just an inkling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshihara View Post
    I have an inkling that the mentor is in the right in this case.

    Just an inkling.
    Maybe, and even though I'm more suspicious of the OP than the mentor, if you're spamming holy and glare and what not and decide to throw in a medica III or a cure 2 for whatever reason and ppl start "well, actually you should be min maxing this way" it can be pretty annoying. It's an expert dungeon, not an ultimate, you do not have to be sweating frames and trying to constantly slidecast with 0 clipping for an expert dungeon. That's downright annoying to be fair.

    So the point is there is too much unkowns here to really make a judgment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    What exactly did they say. Because if you are offended they gave you good advice then you are the problem. Mentors are supposed to give advice, and fragile people unable to take any criticism is the reason barely any say anything.

    You have to be specific about the exact phrasing they used and what they said, how do we know we aren't feeding your entitled ego of "no one can tell me anything" instead of being reasonable, only by posting receipts will we know if you are right or wrong/ Do not identify any players however.



    And actually, they absolutely do need to justify and rationalize if they are going to put a title in their thread about how others should behave. People are allowed to question why they are being to told to do or not do something.
    Not to people responding with "Hey I bet ur a healing bot" they certainly don't. It's a counterproductive discussion regardless. The best you can do either way is take their word for it or don't, outside of being provided a literal transcript it's useless.

    Questioning is one thing, Conclusions resulting from skepticism is another entirely. For as many people as there are 'sensitive egos', there's just as many people that have an inability to express feedback
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealSylph View Post
    It was yuweyawata field station and I was't being a healing bot. Not that any of that makes it ok to badger anyone, let alone another mentor, about what they use duriing w2w trash pulls when their primary healsing spells are on cooldown.
    Seems to me that both of you were right, if you're doing dps as a healer then you're on the right path and if you're making sure the party doesn't die then you're doing your job, it doesn't really matter how you go about that. On the other hand, the other mentor is right to say that you should be optimising (at your own pace), unfortunately optimising healing in this game is to optimise healing OUT of your play.
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  9. #29
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    If you're using healing spells in a dungeon and then getting mad at being pointed out for it, I'm going to assume you're the one in the wrong. These dungeons can be done entirely without a healer, there's no reason to be using healing GCDs at all in them. Also "feeling safe to do so" lol it's always safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Collin_Sky View Post
    If you're using healing spells in a dungeon and then getting mad at being pointed out for it, I'm going to assume you're the one in the wrong. These dungeons can be done entirely without a healer, there's no reason to be using healing GCDs at all in them. Also "feeling safe to do so" lol it's always safe.
    Another myopic comment as though there are not tons of variables in team-member performance in roulettes. Most basic players aren't terminally on the forums and perfecting gameplay.
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