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  1. #9861
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    Connor's Avatar
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    Connor Whelan
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post

    Oh yes, obviously. I was just listing out what we could’ve gotten in main game. Urianger did that in 5.0 lemme do that too smh.
    I mean that this would be the devs’ defense.

    ‘We can’t do that in the main game because we have 4 healers not 2 so it’s impossible to balance’. As if all 4 healers have existed since the game’s inception lol.

    Which begs of question of how FFXIV, a game owned by a multi billion dollar well-reputed company, is being developed by two unpaid hostages in Yoshi-P’s basement.

    I guess Tencent has like, actual game developers working for them? lol.
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  2. #9862
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    They do care about healers - they just have a different vision for them than the people going on "strike", who had no uniform clue what they wanted, contradicted each other, and even if they were all on the same page were so minuscule in number that they didn't warrant fundamentally changing the game to listen to. The answer is clear - the "strike" was a complete failure.
    First of all, I know you've followed this enough so that by now, you should have realized that the issues being discussed are complex, so you're aware that there are multiple points of view, i.e. opinions. So why would you expect that there would be a "uniform clue what *they* wanted"?

    Secondly, how we we know they (presumably Square) "cares about healers"? What do you consider to be "caring"? I would agree that it does not have to equate to my vision of healers, however I would like to know what their vision and roadmap is for healers. I would also like to see some acknowledgment of user feedback and interaction with the community, in live letters, forums, etc., instead of silence.

    So unfortunately- your post is just another copy/paste of your prior posts that fails to add anything to the discussion.
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  3. #9863
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I have not effectively played a healer role, or anything else since mid July. I have mained WHM for 10+ years now, probably won’t change until retirement.

    Healing is what I do but every time I try to come back and try a trial or dungeon, 95% of what I do is dps and not healing.

    I want to heal and not dps, is that such a crazy idea? Playing a healer job because I love healing?

    I have so little to heal as a healer, it sucks the fun out of the game. This current version of the game bores me to the point where I just sigh and sign out. I remember the glory days of Brayflox Hard where it was a challenge to keep everybody alive on the first pull and what a rush it was when it worked. Those were the days…


    This little goblin hiding here behind the bush apparently is trying to say something…


    Weary healers, no need to heal this fight, no heals needed to live and fight.
    Ho the end… it comes!
    The dps, you dps!
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    Last edited by Hyperia; 12-11-2024 at 10:51 AM.

  4. #9864
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    OliviaLugria's Avatar
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    Olivia Lugria
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    I don't see why anyone would ever think SE would directly acknowledge the strike. That would be a PR nightmare.

    If they do make any changes (which I'm finding difficult to belive) they'll just say some player feedback influenced them.
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  5. #9865
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Siren
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    No chance they are actually going to make any changes, but it's still worth ranting so when player numbers plummet we can say we told you so
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  6. #9866
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    Medim Azurarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    I have not effectively played a healer role, or anything else since mid July. I have maimed WHM for 10+ years now, probably won’t change until retirement.

    Healing is what I do but every time I try to come back and try a trial or dungeon, 95% of what I do is dps and not healing.

    I want to heal and not dps, is that such a crazy idea? Playing a healer job because I love healing?
    If you even can call spamming 1 dpsing, especially with the numbers WHM does right now. Neither healers who want to heal or dps get to really do either.
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  7. #9867
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperia View Post
    I have not effectively played a healer role, or anything else since mid July. I have maimed WHM for 10+ years now, probably won’t change until retirement.

    Healing is what I do but every time I try to come back and try a trial or dungeon, 95% of what I do is dps and not healing.

    I want to heal and not dps, is that such a crazy idea? Playing a healer job because I love healing?
    Whether you're a healer who wants to have more things to heal, a healer who wants a more involved DPS rotation for downtimes, or somewhere in between...

    The 'have a paradigm more similar to Stormblood' seems to be a solution that 'trends healers in the direction you're asking for', despite the two sides of the discussion (more damage options vs more healing to do) being pretty much polar opposites on the spectrum of 'what is the solution that would work the best'
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  8. #9868
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    -Kairi's Avatar
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    Kairi Freya
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurarok View Post
    If you even can call spamming 1 dpsing, especially with the numbers WHM does right now. Neither healers who want to heal or dps get to really do either.
    Pretty much. Lol, which is sad.
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  9. #9869
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    J'thaldi Rhid
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    Mateus
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    Honestly, I don't think the current healer role design fits anyone's personal job fantasy unless their job fantasy is to be a safety blanket that gets tossed out when people eventually grow up.
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  10. #9870
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    Hyperia's Avatar
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Honestly, I don't think the current healer role design fits anyone's personal job fantasy unless their job fantasy is to be a safety blanket that gets tossed out when people eventually grow up.
    I'm starting to wonder if SE should consider some of the ways WoW allowed healers to switch from their pure healer modes to outright DPS monsters. Priest vs. Shadow Priest for example. You pick a mode and your locked for the duration of combat before you can switch.
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