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    Quote Originally Posted by Remember_The_Name View Post
    Considering that all of the mentioned can be done in a single day without skipping any cutscenes, OP isn't wrong
    OP probably hasn't even completed all the casual content the game has available right now.

    If so, I'd like to see their Ozma mount, all available relics from all expansions, all completed versions of the Elemental Eurekan armor, every single piece of the Bozjan sets upgraded, every triple triad card, maxed Trusts in every xpac, all deep dungeon mounts (can be done with team, don't need to do solo), every BLU spell and every challenge from Masked Carnival completed, every mount and gear set from Island Sanctuary, every rare animal from Island Sanctuary, all crafter/gatherers with at least 100K points in Ishgard Restoration, and I could keep going.

    OP is asking for content they're probably never gonna finish, while not having finished a ton of stuff that's currently available. Either that, or I'll be damned if they can provide all the things I mentioned above.

    What is it that you want then? A padded MSQ with a segment where you have to go kill 1000 A Hunt Marks to continue the story? An Alliance Raid that allows you to run it only once every month? Hildy quests being time gated to only one every week?? Do you people want all those BS retention mechanics shoved into XIV? Do you seriously think OP would even bother to complete any of those tasks??

    This thread is insane.
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    Last edited by DiaDeem; 09-30-2024 at 10:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    OP probably hasn't even completed all the casual content the game has available right now.

    If so, I'd like to see their Ozma mount, all available relics from all expansions, all completed versions of the Elemental Eurekan armor, every single piece of the Bozjan sets upgraded, every triple triad card, maxed Trusts in every xpac, all deep dungeon mounts (can be done with team, don't need to do solo), every BLU spell and every challenge from Masked Carnival completed, every mount and gear set from Island Sanctuary, every rare animal from Island Sanctuary, all crafter/gatherers with at least 100K points in Ishgard Restoration, and I could keep going.
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    Corrected a bit.... Because this is an insane amount of farm for a casual with little time and patience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    Corrected a bit.... Because this is an insane amount of farm for a casual with little time and patience.
    It's hilarious how some of you act angry that MSQ ends in 3 hours, but when presented with any of the grinds listed above that will never go away, and that you can do whenever you want at whatever pace you want, suddenly you don't have time.

    This thread is insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    It's hilarious how some of you act angry that MSQ ends in 3 hours, but when presented with any of the grinds listed above that will never go away, and that you can do whenever you want at whatever pace you want, suddenly you don't have time.

    This thread is insane.
    This "you" doesn't include me.
    I'm just stating facts about casual player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    It's hilarious how some of you act angry that MSQ ends in 3 hours, but when presented with any of the grinds listed above that will never go away, and that you can do whenever you want at whatever pace you want, suddenly you don't have time.

    This thread is insane.
    its one thing to not do it because of lazyness another because content is dead. I started a lot of this stuff but never end one because why the hell it will bring me nothing. I really would like getting the ozma mount but if i ask around who is in for some eureka people laugh at me so whats now ? Joining 10 diffrent discord servers? yeah ill probably do it but i am insanely stupid. Also i did some savage content i am far away from beeing good at it but we did it. So what am i now i wouldnt say i am casual since i start now with current savage after a big break for prep for FRU. Still i dont do the stuff you mentioned because its dead content ( yeah i know you can faceroll as a WAR over Eureka ) i dont understand where the problem is for people wanting casual stuff to do which are up to date. goddman other games do it aswell. Cool events open world content events from older expansions with rewards and so on. For a long sight people who are "casual" are the ones who are mostly will pay the game after the savage and ultimates are done. Correct me if i am wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    It's hilarious how some of you act angry that MSQ ends in 3 hours, but when presented with any of the grinds listed above that will never go away, and that you can do whenever you want at whatever pace you want, suddenly you don't have time.

    This thread is insane.
    most of the grinds you listed are extremely boring and unfun. hope that clears things up
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    Quote Originally Posted by switchblades View Post
    most of the grinds you listed are extremely boring and unfun. hope that clears things up
    What sort of content do you find enjoyable and would like to see implemented into the game?
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    I wouldn’t call myself a casual player, but from my point of view, Final Fantasy 14 used to have good content for casuals, but lately, they’re no longer focusing on bringing that same level of quality. For me, a casual player is someone who invests little to no time in improving at the game and is content with staying at a "normal" level and that’s absolutely fine. So, for me, content like Palace of the Dead in a group feels like casual content until the last floors, as it’s similar to dungeons with some mechanics that can kill you.

    Eureka was content that not many people liked because of the experience loss from death. Bozja, part 1, was hard at the beginning, but it became easier as you progressed, which I really liked. The thing is, someone who isn't interested in constantly fighting for their life will try this content for a while, then drop it. In my opinion, casual content is something that can be done without feeling like your life is always on the line. Yes, I know people will say, "Stop making the game simple," but that’s what the game is. What keeps the game alive are players hunting for glamour or housing items period.

    Unfortunately, Final Fantasy 14 hasn’t offered much in that department lately. Why not evolve and make the overworld more useful instead of having maps that people never visit again? We have FATEs with some rewards if you do something like 5,000 FATEs for one mount, but let’s be honest who’s doing 5,000 FATEs? It’s Final Fantasy add treasures in areas we don’t usually go to, or random events. Give people something to do instead of standing AFK in Limsa or in their houses.

    Dawntrail should feel like a vacation where we’re adventurers again, so why not give us more to explore? Make achievement points more useful by adding more rewards, or create special content for jobs so people actively want to try different ones, instead of just saying, “I leveled everything.” I think when a typical casual hears the words "EX" or "Savage," they just tune out because that content isn’t for them.

    Variant dungeons were great for casuals, even though some found them a bit hard. You had a manageable dungeon with different paths to take and a mount as a reward. Stuff like that is good casual content, in my opinion. Other things to consider are QoL updates, making the game more alt-friendly, and having events that are bigger than just two quests where you skip the cutscene for a hat.

    Involve older expansions if you want like Blizzard did with the Pandaria remix. I don’t know, but sitting on the idea that we just need more raiding content isn’t how casual players will be satisfied. The key is figuring out how to implement content that pleases all sides. Answering that is no easy task! ( the announced housing stuff is very great but you need a House first which is savage content )
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    OP probably hasn't even completed all the casual content the game has available right now.

    If so, I'd like to see their Ozma mount, all available relics from all expansions, all completed versions of the Elemental Eurekan armor, every single piece of the Bozjan sets upgraded, every triple triad card, maxed Trusts in every xpac, all deep dungeon mounts (can be done with team, don't need to do solo), every BLU spell and every challenge from Masked Carnival completed, every mount and gear set from Island Sanctuary, every rare animal from Island Sanctuary, all crafter/gatherers with at least 100K points in Ishgard Restoration, and I could keep going.

    OP is asking for content they're probably never gonna finish, while not having finished a ton of stuff that's currently available. Either that, or I'll be damned if they can provide all the things I mentioned above.

    What is it that you want then? A padded MSQ with a segment where you have to go kill 1000 A Hunt Marks to continue the story? An Alliance Raid that allows you to run it only once every month? Hildy quests being time gated to only one every week?? Do you people want all those BS retention mechanics shoved into XIV? Do you seriously think OP would even bother to complete any of those tasks??

    This thread is insane.
    If anyone is ever complaining about not having content in XIV, especially different types of content, at all levels, be assured they have not done much content in XIV. They specifically want content that they are only interested in. Look at the lodestone of the people that are career complainers on the forums. You will immediately notice an alarming trend of people that barely even interface with most aspects of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiaDeem View Post
    OP probably hasn't even completed all the casual content the game has available right now.

    If so, I'd like to see their Ozma mount, all available relics from all expansions, all completed versions of the Elemental Eurekan armor, every single piece of the Bozjan sets upgraded, every triple triad card, maxed Trusts in every xpac, all deep dungeon mounts (can be done with team, don't need to do solo), every BLU spell and every challenge from Masked Carnival completed, every mount and gear set from Island Sanctuary, every rare animal from Island Sanctuary, all crafter/gatherers with at least 100K points in Ishgard Restoration, and I could keep going.

    OP is asking for content they're probably never gonna finish, while not having finished a ton of stuff that's currently available. Either that, or I'll be damned if they can provide all the things I mentioned above.

    What is it that you want then? A padded MSQ with a segment where you have to go kill 1000 A Hunt Marks to continue the story? An Alliance Raid that allows you to run it only once every month? Hildy quests being time gated to only one every week?? Do you people want all those BS retention mechanics shoved into XIV? Do you seriously think OP would even bother to complete any of those tasks??

    This thread is insane.
    Consider that not all casual content appeals to every player. Telling people to go do Eureka, really?
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