Out of touch? PLL

[DiaDeem]

I like to collect costmetic and glams stuff from all the expac but DT has been disastrous to give me something cool to farm or invest time, and for the record:
*I'm 10/10/9 with the Al-Ikill (i had to sit HOURS farming the MDK fate) i could go 10/10/10 tonight if i wanted to.
*Don't care about trusts, i like to play with real people.
*Done with Eureka and BA, got Ozma, got elemental and fending sets +1, not a fan of the other sets looks.
*Level 25 in island, every gear set (i'm not sure what was the dificult on those) got the two bikes doing the riveting gameplay of clicking nodes.
*EW relics literally complete themselves by doing just roulettes every day, i just finished 8-9 by just doing roulettes.
*7.0 MSQ?, we better not talk about this one, it's pretty hard to take it seriously and by the look, it will be more of the same.

So the only thing left for me it's either complete a 4th ARR relic or farm EW mounts (not interested in those DT wings) while i wait for Field Operations, it's one of the few contents that make feel this game a mmo. And it's funny, lets say yes, you have all the cards, all the secret pets in IS, all spells/gatherers whatever, all the hunts mounts i can bet all my gil that your answer would be the ol' reliable "well, dude touch grass or unsub lmao".

And cheking people's lodestone profiles for a "gotcha" is very weird btw

I try to trust posts made in good faith. No need (or time) to go around checking lodestones. You actually play the content, so that makes a difference.

And don't get me wrong. I mentioned in another thread that as a costumer of 11 years, I wish patch cycles became shorter again. I don't expect to have infinite amounts of content, but I've started to feel the droughts. I think CUIII's responsibility is to make XIV the best it can be before they work on 5 other things. I just think saying there's not enough stuff or grinds to do makes no sense.

[ReynTime]

I try to trust posts made in good faith. No need (or time) to go around checking lodestones. You actually play the content, so that makes a difference.

And don't get me wrong. I mentioned in another thread that as a costumer of 11 years, I wish patch cycles became shorter again. I don't expect to have infinite amounts of content, but I've started to feel the droughts. I think CUIII's responsibility is to make XIV the best it can be before they work on 5 other things. I just think saying there's not enough stuff or grinds to do makes no sense.

This might be stating the obvious but...

XIV being the best it can be is not their priority. Mind you I'm speaking strictly from a business sense.
Pokemon is the biggest and easiest example. The main games don't show half the effort some of the spinoffs showcase, and the investment put into the games isn't as big as the size of the IP makes it out to be. That's precisely because they make so much money by simply focusing on what they know is good enough for the average buyer. Minimizing effort for maximum profit, which these unpolished rubbish last couple generations' pokemon games generate tons of and have extremely long legs.

XIV isn't going to be a bigger priority than it is, because it's already generating more income than most other projects. Most big companies are risk-averse. Especially with the current state of the game industry. It doesn't matter how much we complain, XIV won't see significant change in direction, content cycle, or become the focus of more experienced staff again unless they start seeing the numbers really drop low.

[AlienDiplomat]

I have ZERO interest in savage content. This is easy to make, low budget content for less than 10% of the player base.

[Hallarem]

They should keep promoting anyone who shows even an inkling of talent into the "attack team" for other square enix teams and games away from FFXIV and hire more janitors and coffee fetchers into important writing positions. And please keep Yoshi P as far away from directing FFXIV as possible.

All jokes aside, that's all my goodwill gone. Another MMO gone stale and formulaic, actually no. As much as I will never go back to WoW, ATLEAST THEY HAD THE BALLS TO TRY NEW THINGS.

[Toutatis]

I’d like more extreme level content. I no longer have the will nor the time to prog savage and my schedule is very irregular which might make me miss the release of a new tier by 3-4 weeks. Extreme is the right difficulty for me: not completely brain dead yet doesn’t require the precision and the body checks of savage. It requires engagement yet it’s pretty much guaranteed it can be cleared in one evening without a static and if you are late in the content because you had to travel for business, you can still catch up in no time while trying to PF for a fresh savage prog is a nightmare if you’re late. Extreme is the difficulty I was expecting from criterion when they initially mentioned them but nooo, it was savage again and variant dungeons were entirely brain dead even on solo. This game needs more midcore content. One trial per major patch is not enough.

[Sacae]

I’d like more extreme level content. I no longer have the will nor the time to prog savage and my schedule is very irregular which might make me miss the release of a new tier by 3-4 weeks. Extreme is the right difficulty for me: not completely brain dead yet doesn’t require the precision and the body checks of savage. It requires engagement yet it’s pretty much guaranteed it can be cleared in one evening without a static and if you are late in the content because you had to travel for business, you can still catch up in no time while trying to PF for a fresh savage prog is a nightmare if you’re late. Extreme is the difficulty I was expecting from criterion when they initially mentioned them but nooo, it was savage again and variant dungeons were entirely brain dead even on solo. This game needs more midcore content. One trial per major patch is not enough.

7.1 has 2, the Extreme and the Unreal.

[Heavenchild]

OP probably hasn't even completed all the casual content the game has available right now.

If so, I'd like to see their Ozma mount, all available relics from all expansions, all completed versions of the Elemental Eurekan armor, every single piece of the Bozjan sets upgraded, every triple triad card, maxed Trusts in every xpac, all deep dungeon mounts (can be done with team, don't need to do solo), every BLU spell and every challenge from Masked Carnival completed, every mount and gear set from Island Sanctuary, every rare animal from Island Sanctuary, all crafter/gatherers with at least 100K points in Ishgard Restoration, and I could keep going.

OP is asking for content they're probably never gonna finish, while not having finished a ton of stuff that's currently available. Either that, or I'll be damned if they can provide all the things I mentioned above.

What is it that you want then? A padded MSQ with a segment where you have to go kill 1000 A Hunt Marks to continue the story? An Alliance Raid that allows you to run it only once every month? Hildy quests being time gated to only one every week?? Do you people want all those BS retention mechanics shoved into XIV? Do you seriously think OP would even bother to complete any of those tasks??

This thread is insane.

What are you talking about? D:
Maybe you should stay with the topic instead of trying to attack me. :x

I have done almost everything I wanted to do. I have done Eureka and I have the ozma-mount. Btw getting Ozma is not casual content. Clearing deep dungeon completely is also not casual and I am not into that stuff. I also did Bozja (but had no interest in delu savage). I also have every relic and relic amour 'that I wanted'. I also have my Bluemage umbrella and Masked Carnival complete done. My Island Sanctuary is maxed out and I have everything from it. I am double Saint of the Firmament regarding to ishgard restoration and I am not interested in that mount for all with 100k. It's ugly imo. Because of boredom I even farmed the 1.000.000 points ocean fishing to get the creepy looking fish pet. But I won't talk more about everything I've done over all the years. That's pointless.

Why should someone collect everything possible, even if he/she does not like the reward? The game does not even give us the inventory space to store such an amount of items. I stopped collecting everything because of no space left. I have also lost parts of my interest in collecting more mounts because I have a lot and in game there are not much situations to effectively use them.

All I have said is, that this regular patch stuff does not count because it's the standard stuff that is done fast and not much to do. Custom delivery needs 5 weeks because of the time gatekeeping. And not because it's 5 weeks interesting content. ^^"
Same for tribes.

All people I met in game are very bored for a long time now. And after the LL it seems like that won't change.
It was a bad idea not to release field operations early. This would have been content for the majority of the playerbase to spend time with.

For everyone, who has all done what was on the to do list, that patchcontent is much too less to fill 4-5 month.

[Sotaris]

I have to agree with Heavenchild, that list had very little "casual" content in it. Most of it I would categorize into the mid-core segment. Not every casual player cares about a lot on that list.
I'd probably consider myself a casual these days, I used to hardcore raid in ARR-SB.

I don't really know what I want in terms of content cause there hasn't been a lot that appeals to me in the past expansions, probably why I play so limited now and focus on other games like FF11 and my backlog.

Getting more Hildi sounds nice, I enjoyed it for most part but it's not for everyone nor do I think it should be tied into a relic questline like it was in EW.

[Daralii]

I've seen this same casual vs hardcore arguing in at least two other games, and both hit a point after a few years where a lot of people that weren't doing the hardest content just quietly left because everything else had been lobotomized or made harder until they were pushed out.