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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    It’s amazing how allergic tanks are to working with others. Coordinate with the healer to try to maximise the effect of your CD’s, if the healer refuses or is unable to coordinate then just move on.
    "If healer refuses to coordinate or is unable to coordinate, just move on"

    Move on and swap WAR

    "Hold up"
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    "If healer refuses to coordinate or is unable to coordinate, just move on"

    Move on and swap WAR

    "Hold up"
    Yes we all know you cling to OP WAR like a blanket (there a fergie lyric in there somewhere)

    Get some new material please
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Yes we all know you cling to OP WAR like a blanket (there a fergie lyric in there somewhere)

    Get some new material please
    Ah, yes, fresh start with personal attacks.
    You're free to check my profile(s) to see my favorite tanks.

    Ironically you put your finger on something. In dungeon you can't expect every players to play the same way, DRK or healers.
    When playing DRK, I don't rely on Living Dead because I'm aware healer reactions will be different from players to players.

    Today's dungeon are designed so that any role aren't a point of failure for the party so the weaker link can be carried. It's time to accept you won't be the most important player of the party and, as you said, "move on".
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Ah, yes, fresh start with personal attacks.
    You're free to check my profile(s) to see my favorite tanks.

    Ironically you put your finger on something. In dungeon you can't expect every players to play the same way, DRK or healers.
    When playing DRK, I don't rely on Living Dead because I'm aware healer reactions will be different from players to players.

    Today's dungeon are designed so that any role aren't a point of failure for the party so the weaker link can be carried. It's time to accept you won't be the most important player of the party and, as you said, "move on".
    The reason why it isn’t worth “debating” you is because you basically just ignored 17 pages of context to play the victim when you know I don’t like you

    “You won’t be the most important player in the party” you cry as you and OP desperately cry to perpetually be the single most important player in the party with the ability to ignore everyone else, you’ve spent literal PAGES arguing bloodwhetting is fine because it’s casual content but now I’m suddenly the one who needs to accept that I’m not the most important player when all I want is just to actually be able to play the game

    “No role is the point of failure”………except the tank, IM MORE important than you so I should be the point of failure is an argument you’ve given.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    The reason why it isn’t worth “debating” you is because you basically just ignored 17 pages of context to play the victim when you know I don’t like you
    Very cool, how about not making it personal and be objective?
    Don't accuse me of playing the victim when you're screaming everyday that your role is dying, the worst balanced and that you can't play your role lmao
    Move on, stop making things personal it's a forum not a boxing ring. It's crazy how tank sustain is living rent free in your head.

    As for LD, because it's the actual topic:
    -We can activate the healing effect regardless of Living Dead/Walking Dead status.
    -We can move the healing effect to a different cooldown, Blood weapon for example.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    Very cool, how about not making it personal and be objective?
    Don't accuse me of playing the victim when you're screaming everyday that your role is dying, the worst balanced and that you can't play your role lmao
    Move on, stop making things personal it's a forum not a boxing ring. It's crazy how tank sustain is living rent free in your head.

    As for LD, because it's the actual topic:
    -We can activate the healing effect regardless of Living Dead/Walking Dead status.
    -We can move the healing effect to a different cooldown, Blood weapon for example.
    I was on topic, I specifically said that nothing needs to change about living dead because it actually encourages communication, if you are so unable or unwilling to communicate with your co healer or you are so offended that the healer either doesn’t understand or chooses to ignore you that you cry for buffs so it works independently of the healer then I oppose that stance

    Everything else I have said is a flow on of you choosing to open with a pointless “remember how you don’t like tank sustain”. Yes I’m vocal about tank sustain because I genuinely see a problem with it, you also see a problem with it but since it benefits you you choose to defend it. There is a big difference there. If you want to say me pointing out actual problems with role balance is playing the victim then sure I’m the victim

    If you want me to stay on topic then how about you stay on topic yourself, I don’t think living dead needs any changes at all, it’s one of my favourite abilities DRK has and it works perfectly
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 09-12-2024 at 12:37 AM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    if you are so unable or unwilling to communicate with your co healer or you are so offended that the healer either doesn’t understand or chooses to ignore you that you cry for buffs so it works independently of the healer then I oppose that stance

    If you want to say me pointing out boogeymen is playing the victim then sure I’m the victim
    You can't expect DRKs to write in the group log everytime they queue in or bind a macro to your Living Dead with a bongo sound hoping the healer read the chat if they can't open their eyes/ears and be aware of the bright red Living dead buff.
    People actually used to bind a macro to Living Dead only to see it not being procced because healers simply don't read, as they don't expect to read the chat anyway.
    In other content that requires practice, you will communicate to map cooldowns, so healers (and tank!) will know what you'll be doing.

    Dungeons are in and out 10 min adventure, nothing more. You don't see WHM saying "Hey tank, I will start chaining Holy at THIS point so don't bother mitigating!!".
    Come on, that's unrealistic and you know that no one bother communicating because there's no value in it. Everyone runs with their own untold rules.
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