With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[LianaThorne]

A person who is secure in their identity doesn't spew the hate that Sena does. They don't try to assert themselves at the expense of others. She does. CONSTANTLY. Tweet where she states a woman is not allowed to play a (trans) woman, despite the voice actor having done a stellar job and gotten praised for it. Tweet where she calls other cis women ugly, then posts a picture of herself with her age attached, saying that she is trans and prettier. I mean holy crap, talk about insecurity. Tweet where she acts like people are in the wrong for supporting a different woman only because that other woman is pretty and cis, and only trans women are worthy of support.

Just. Why? What is that? Are we not all women here? Why the hell does she feel entitled to put other fellow women down? She is hateful and toxic. And insecure to boot. I am sorry, but instead of stewing in her toxic twitter echo chamber, she should find a therapist and work through her issues. She will come out the other end a happier person. This is not an offensive statement meant to harass her, nor is it transphobic or whatever else people would love to come up with. I've been in therapy too! There's nothing shameful about it! Sometimes you look at a person and you see all those flags screaming that they are clearly seeking help, attention and affirmation. And the answer is therapy.

This might be a controversial thing to say but this is why I feel that some members of the trans community don't necessarily have the right intentions for why they want to be a woman. I feel like some view being a woman as a quick gateway to attention/praise/easy success/being taken care of and not that it's about making themselves feel comfortable in their own skin and forming bonds with other women/just flat out being a woman. Situations like this where Sena is calling other women ugly while posting pictures of herself saying she's prettier/getting upset that another woman (specifically cisgender) is getting more attention than she is, is a part of why I feel that way. I know it's definitely not the majority nor would I even try to make that generalization but the minority that does act like this tends to be more vocal in my experience and it sucks for the rest of the community that doesn't think that way because I feel those on the outside tend to see the vocal toxic side more than those who just want to exist as they are.

[BigBoom550]

This might be a controversial thing to say but this is why I feel that some members of the trans community don't necessarily have the right intentions for why they want to be a woman. I feel like some view being a woman as a quick gateway to attention/praise/easy success/being taken care of and not that it's about making themselves feel comfortable in their own skin and forming bonds with other women/being a woman. Situations like this where Sena is calling other women ugly while posting pictures of herself saying she's prettier/getting upset that another woman (specifically cisgender) is getting more attention than she is, is a part of why I feel that way. I know it's definitely not the majority nor would I even try to make that generalization but the minority that does act like this tends to be more vocal in my experience and it sucks for the rest of the community that doesn't think that way because I feel those on the outside tend to see the vocal toxic side more than those who just want to exist as they are.

That last part is absolutely true. Most I've met are harmless-weird. Weird hobbies, sometimes weird- but harmless- ideas. Weird, but okay people.

It's the rare few that have decided to be A Problem that are the issue. I've had these morons unironically argue that it's OK for them to bully group A, because Group B bullied other trans people once. Not even them personally, unrelated people.

"The purple people hurt an orange person over in Nebrahoma, so I, an orange person in Elbonia, can kick green people."

Patent absurdity.

Sena's demonstrating the same behavior as that second group. Someone else got hurt, so she's entitled to act like this. Detestable.

[BakoolJaJa]

This might be a controversial thing to say but this is why I feel that some members of the trans community don't necessarily have the right intentions for why they want to be a woman. I feel like some view being a woman as a quick gateway to attention/praise/easy success/being taken care of and not that it's about making themselves feel comfortable in their own skin and forming bonds with other women/just flat out being a woman. Situations like this where Sena is calling other women ugly while posting pictures of herself saying she's prettier/getting upset that another woman (specifically cisgender) is getting more attention than she is, is a part of why I feel that way. I know it's definitely not the majority nor would I even try to make that generalization but the minority that does act like this tends to be more vocal in my experience and it sucks for the rest of the community that doesn't think that way because I feel those on the outside tend to see the vocal toxic side more than those who just want to exist as they are.

You don't see most of this crap with trans men. So I agree. That is definitely a controversial take and it can be hurtful, so it's not one I often bring up if at all. And yes, of course it's important to mention that NOT ALL trans women are like that, not at all.

Still, there are quite a few trans women who were men, some of them incels, unhappy with their relationships and the way the world "treated" them (though self inflicted by their own issues they never learned to deal with). Who then decided to try their luck on the other side. Those issues of theirs never go away though, just continue manifesting in their new gender. They are still bitter at women, still can't find fulfilling relationships, still struggle with their own self perception, still constantly lack attention. So they take to Twitter where they oversexualize themselves and start conflicts in order to get that attention they so crave. And still nothing solves their actual issues.

Then look at trans men. Show me one trans man who acts the way all those infamous trans women on twitter do. Show me trans men who are anywhere near as famous/infamous in the first place! They aren't because they are just living their lives, not bothering anyone, and what a surprise - people don't bother them in turn. Respect yourself and others, and you will be respected in turn.

[usagilove]

You don't see most of this crap with trans men. So I agree. That is definitely a controversial take and it can be hurtful, so it's not one I often bring up if at all. And yes, of course it's important to mention that NOT ALL trans women are like that, not at all.

Still, there are quite a few trans women who were men, some of them incels, unhappy with their relationships and the way the world "treated" them (though self inflicted by their own issues they never learned to deal with). Who then decided to try their luck on the other side. Those issues of theirs never go away though, just continue manifesting in their new gender. They are still bitter at women, still can't find fulfilling relationships, still struggle with their own self perception, still constantly lack attention. So they take to Twitter where they oversexualize themselves and start conflicts in order to get that attention they so crave. And still nothing solves their actual issues.

Then look at trans men. Show me one trans man who acts the way all those infamous trans women on twitter do. Show me trans men who are anywhere near as famous/infamous in the first place! They aren't because they are just living their lives, not bothering anyone, and what a surprise - people don't bother them in turn. Respect yourself and others, and you will be respected in turn.

I also don't see any Asian transwomen do this, the ones I've met were all really comfortable with who they are. I think this is strictly a western issue.

[Rueby]

Disregard what I posted, I'm just observing now

[Maxilor]

Disregard what I posted, I'm just observing now

[HighlanderClone]

I don’t get why people of the camp have to make everything about their identity and humanity

It takes two to tango

There's a reason all these threads are so successful, and it's not because of a certain minority identity lmfao.

It's so hilarious to me that so many of the people asking "why do people make it everything about identity" are the ones who reply non-stop in these threads. But honestly at this point it also just makes me sad; it's a sad indictment of how far we as a species have fallen.

[Zarkovitch]

God damn, I mean you can dislike performance of the person, but thats went too far.

[Isala]

God damn, I mean you can dislike performance of the person, but thats went too far.

[Citation needed]

She's still yet to actually show proof, and seeing as she's the type to cry "VICTIM!" over other people's struggles, I'm going to believe that she's making this up too.

[Basteala]

[Citation needed]

She's still yet to actually show proof, and seeing as she's the type to cry "VICTIM!" over other people's struggles, I'm going to believe that she's making this up too.

Yeah but it's something you hear often enough. Daisy Ridley being harassed because of her role as Rey in the godawful sequels comes to mind.