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    Thaelyn Arryn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squig View Post
    i'm not a big fan of Wuk Lamat but i sincerely believe a lot of the people in this thread genuinely just hate trans women
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    Don't look back, that's not the way you're going.

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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squig View Post
    i'm not a big fan of Wuk Lamat but i sincerely believe a lot of the people in this thread genuinely just hate trans women
    Nobody in this thread hates trans women more than Sena hates women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squig View Post
    i'm not a big fan of Wuk Lamat but i sincerely believe a lot of the people in this thread genuinely just hate trans women
    This is precisely why I think this thread is not suitable for the discussion anymore. The vast majority of it is back and forth on the ethics of transgender identity. The proper meat of the topics, i.e. the disgusting behaviour of Sena randomly occurs on page 90something. People still come in here to defend her right to self-expression and the whole thread goes off the rails, while Sena's insults towards the player base get buried under pages and pages of back and forth.

    I had only posted once or twice before, to defend the use of chosen pronouns, and I wouldn't have known how horrible of a person Sena is if I hadn't been lurking at the right time.

    For visibility on the true issue to be spread, it needs to be in the OP, where people would see it, not on page 90something, and this is just not gonna happen in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squig View Post
    i'm not a big fan of Wuk Lamat but i sincerely believe a lot of the people in this thread genuinely just hate trans women
    Bro do not take that track with me, I am *the* depraved bisexual and I will have that respected. Long as it can consent I might be down.

    Reducing all concerns to 'wahh they just hage trans people' was covered a few pages back. It's not remotely constructive to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoom550 View Post
    Bro do not take that track with me, I am *the* depraved bisexual and I will have that respected. Long as it can consent I might be down.

    Reducing all concerns to 'wahh they just hage trans people' was covered a few pages back. It's not remotely constructive to say.
    I entirely agree with you, as I'm LGBT too, but people like the guy you're quotting wouldn't know this thread is anything beyond trans bashing by just looking at it. On the surface one looks at it and it's like "aww poor Sena" - one has to have been along for the whole ride to have seen just how badly she treats the fandom.
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    idk half the replies to my post are just openly calling her a man

    im sorry she offended you i guess but we don't have to pretend most of this isn't just about her being trans
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    Vhen'li Sahval
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squig View Post
    idk half the replies to my post are just openly calling her a man

    im sorry she offended you i guess but we don't have to pretend most of this isn't just about her being trans
    We're not pretending. This isn't about her being trans.

    Referring to Sena as a man may be disrespectful, but it isn't transphobia. If you really think that's all it takes, then that's honestly really sad.

    At the end of the day, however, Sena has been showing how much of a terrible person she is. Trans or not. You'll find the majority of posts in this thread talking about exactly that.

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    Man, I'm such a boomer, I remember when people tried to have a personality instead of relying on labels.
    I miss those days so much, man...
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    Howdy o/

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    yes actually referring to a trans woman as a man is transphobic, hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squig View Post
    idk half the replies to my post are just openly calling her a man

    im sorry she offended you i guess but we don't have to pretend most of this isn't just about her being trans
    No, only one person who replied to you called her a man.
    The rest of us either pointed out her disgusting behaviour or said "gtfo".

    I'm gay, my partner is gay and I have a trans (female to male) family member. I'm as trans ally as they come ---- being trans doesn't excuse being a manipulative attention seeker who openly and deliberately instigates drama within our community and insults the fans.
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    Bana Kori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squig View Post
    idk half the replies to my post are just openly calling her a man

    im sorry she offended you i guess but we don't have to pretend most of this isn't just about her being trans
    half the replies to your post are based and sneedpilled.
    Cope and sneed.
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