With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[Lorika]

You can dislike her as a person without being transphobic.

It's what a lot of people did on this thread.... So i wonder why white knight just point the very few real transphobic post present in this thread, and say that hey are the majority.

This attitude will, in the end, derserve the LGBT community. If you don't start to realize this soon, it will turn ugly.... Because, when the neutral silent majority will be fed up with all of this, and will start to voice it, you'll have a real problem on you hands.
And, the silent majority is starting to get fed up...

[FlowerMilk]

It's what a lot of people did on this thread.... So i wonder why white knight just point the very few real transphobic post present in this thread, and say that hey are the majority.

This attitude will, in the end, derserve the LGBT community. If you don't start to realize this soon, it will turn ugly.... Because, when the neutral silent majority will be fed up with all of this, and will start to voice it, you'll have a real problem on you hands.
And, the silent majority is starting to get fed up...

Voice it, tell me how exactly it will turn "ugly". Don't be silent any longer, air it out. What do you plan to do about it? Tell us.

[Lorika]

Voice it, tell me how exactly it will turn "ugly". Don't be silent any longer, air it out. What do you plan to do about it? Tell us.

See, this is this attitude that will cost LGBT community all they hard fought effort to be able to voice a little their concern.
If you continue to have this attitude eveyrbody will say STFU, GTFO we don't care anymore.... And your cause will not advance at all for a long time.

[FlowerMilk]

See, this is this attitude that will cost LGBT community all they hard fought effort to be able to voice a little their concern.
If you continue to have this attitude eveyrbody will say STFU, GTFO we don't care anymore.... And your cause will not advance at all for a long time.

So what do you plan to do then to silence us and not advance the cause of LGBTQ+ rights? Go on, tell us.

[Raven2014]

So what do you plan to do then to silence us and not advance the cause of LGBTQ+ rights? Go on, tell us.

The most dangerous thing about people like you is you don't realize there is a very (dangerous) difference that extremist fail to recognize the damage they do to their platform.

- If people want to silence you, that's actually the easy fight. That's what people have been doing since the 60'

- The much harder fight is when people no longer care about what you said. This trend started around a decade ago and getting worse.

Just think what's the most dangerous threat to democracy isn't far left or far right, it's about a population that has grown apathetic to the process. And before you go and blame the population for being apathetic, think why they become apathetic in the first place.

It's used to be a moderated things with a lot of genuine support, that's why social movement have been able to gain a lot of advancement. But the last decade or so some movement have movement felt empowered enough to believe themselves can't do no wrong, allow them to insert in any situation and gaslit everyone ... at best, I think a lot of people just become jaded when we have to be exposed to a constant 24/7 issue. Remember, even when there is a war with hundred people dying daily, being in the news long enough and most just look at all those deaths as trivial evening news.

People are not telling the activist to shut up because they want to silence others, but no one want to listen to the same crap repeat ad-nauseam.

Remember even when a medicine is good, an overdose will sometime create the opposite effect. That's exactly the (dangerous) difference people like you can't recognize.

That's even assuming you're being genuine, but I seriously doubt that.


I'm old enough to remember that one of the pillar of social activism used to be no person should be denied a job based on who they are, but only on their own merit.

To think these days you see some minority is brazen enough to believe they should get the job simply because of who they are despite lacking the ability to do it.

Yeah, get that crap outta here. Just because originally people have a good cause, doesn't mean they're immune to take it too far. If anything, the history human is a gigantic show case of that very risk.

[FlowerMilk]

The most dangerous thing about people like you is you don't realize there is a very (dangerous) difference that extremist fail to recognize the damage they do to their platform.

- If people want to silence you, that's actually the easy fight. That's what people have been doing since the 60'

- The much harder fight is when people no longer care about what you said. This trend started around a decade ago and getting worse.

Just think what's the most dangerous threat to democracy isn't far left or far right, it's about a population that has grown apathetic to the process. And before you go and blame the population for being apathetic, think why they become apathetic in the first place.

It's used to be a moderated things with a lot of genuine support, that's why social movement have been able to gain a lot of advancement. But the last decade or so some movement have movement felt empowered enough to believe themselves can't do no wrong, allow them to insert in any situation and gaslit everyone ... at best, I think a lot of people just become jaded when we have to be exposed to a constant 24/7 issue. Remember, even when there is a war with hundred people dying daily, being in the news long enough and most just look at all those deaths as trivial evening news.

People are not telling the activist to shut up because they want to silence others, but no one want to listen to the same crap repeat ad-nauseam.

Remember even when a medicine is good, an overdose will sometime create the opposite effect. That's exactly the (dangerous) difference people like you can't recognize.

That's even assuming you're being genuine, but I seriously doubt that.


I'm old enough to remember that one of the pillar of social activism used to be no person should be denied a job based on who they are, but only on their own merit.

To think these days you see some minority is brazen enough to believe they should get the job simply because of who they are despite lacking the ability to do it.

Yeah, get that crap outta here. Just because originally people have a good cause, doesn't mean they're immune to take it too far. If anything, the history human is a gigantic show case of that very risk.

So as we can clearly see here by this giant post this guy typed out, and the many other posts in this thread, the criticisms of this VA are definitely just 100% about her job done as a voice actor and totally have nothing to do with her being trans.

Lmao you guys are so bad at hiding it.

[Vensaval]

So as we can clearly see here by this giant post this guy typed out, and the many other posts in this thread, the criticisms of this VA are definitely just 100% about her job done as a voice actor and totally have nothing to do with her being trans.

Lmao you guys are so bad at hiding it.

For one thing, the "giant post" didn't even address the VA. They addressed people in general who adhere to this social movement that's been persisting for over a decade.

Second: If the VA wasn't an aggravating personality and their entire online presence didn't revolve around them being trans, most people wouldn't care about that. And the few that did would be rightfully ignored.

So, unfortunately due to the VA's own actions, not only does their poor performance in the MSQ get justifiably criticized, but the person behind the voice as well.

It's not transphobia. It's holding people accountable.

[phandaal]

So as we can clearly see here by this giant post this guy typed out, and the many other posts in this thread, the criticisms of this VA are definitely just 100% about her job done as a voice actor and totally have nothing to do with her being trans.

Lmao you guys are so bad at hiding it.

The English voice actor roles for characters in Tuliyollal all went to actors of latino/latina origin and appropriate age, except one: Wuk Lamat. Sena has confirmed this on Twitter.

Wuk Lamat, a young latina woman, was portrayed by a middle-aged, white, North American man.

The performer being a man is why they were unable to perform this role to the same quality as the actors for other localizations of this role. Again, confirmed by Sena on Twitter - it is very hard for a man to make the appropriate sounds needed to portray a woman's voice.

The performer being "transgender" is the reason he was cast in a role that he had no business performing, and presumably how he took the place of a latina voice actor who probably would have done a better job. The performances of voice actors from other locales confirms that the actor can at least do her best even if the story is bad.

Nobody cares anymore that we are not supposed to be allowed to notice these things, and nobody is sorry for noticing it.