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    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post

    That being said, I don't think that's grounds to harass someone. And I don't understand the outright hatred either. At this point maybe just switch off your internet access and move on. You're making the rest of us look bad.
    Agree about the part where she shouldn't be harassed, but if she had a kind personality on Twitter she would get more support - even with a bad performance.

    As is, she just posts about taking jobs away from CIS women, bemoaning other people getting support, and now starting low-key harassment campaigns against other voice actors who aren't striking. This makes her very unlikeable to many people.

    The XIV community cancelled Susan Calloway for far less...
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 08-09-2024 at 01:10 AM.

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    Sena is pretty outspoken and proudly sexist and misogynistic against women, that is a good point. That could agitate some of those crazy lefty feminists pretty good.
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    If you don't like her performance, the Japanese audio is easily switched on.
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    No, Bobby, we fans are telling the creators that we aren't idiots and we know why he is saying what he is saying now. As I said, you are either willingfully naive, or you do not have the experience to know bs when you hear it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    No, Bobby, we fans are telling the creators that we aren't idiots and we know why he is saying what he is saying now. As I said, you are either willingfully naive, or you do not have the experience to know bs when you hear it.
    You are free to tell them that. I think it is a waste of time but you are free to voice your concern and issues that is not what I am talking about.

    My reply was to the person that stated Bridget was not trans. In this moment in time they are 100% trans. The motivate or reason behind the change does not change the fact the developers changed their story and made the character trans.

    Sure it seems like BS and screams some weird PR play. That being said I have no way to confirm or deny their intentions behind the action. If I cannot prove otherwise I will take the persons words at face value.

    I.just don't see the value in calling someone a liar when I cannot prove them to be so. I can have my suspensions and concerns and I got personally distance myself from them if I so desire. I will not spread unverified claims such as x person is lying. I cannot prove that so i will not speak of it as fact.

    If that being naive fine.
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    Last edited by Bobby66; 08-09-2024 at 04:41 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    You are free to tell them that. I think it is a waste of time but you are free to voice your concern and issues that is not what I am talking about.

    My reply was to the person that stated Bridget was not trans. In this moment in time they are 100% trans. The motivate or reason behind the change does not change the fact the developers changed their story and made the character trans.

    Sure it seems like BS and screams some weird PR play. That being said I have no way to confirm or deny their intentions behind the action. If I cannot prove otherwise I will take the persons words at face value.

    I.just don't see the value in calling someone a liar when I cannot prove them to be so. I can have my suspensions and concerns and I got personally distance myself from them if I so desire. I will not spread unverified claims such as x person is lying. I cannot prove that so i will not speak of it as fact.

    If that being naive fine.
    They are not trans. Now figure out why I said that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    They are not trans. Now figure out why I said that.
    According to the developer's who shape the game world said Bridget is trans. That means they are trans. Your reasoning is moot, they get the final say on what happens to their world and characters.

    As pointed out if they said Bridger was an alien that just wanted to dress up as a nun. Sure it would be dumb ans as fans we could voice that concern but unfortunately we have no ground to deny that they are now an alien. Their game, their rules. Like it or not they are the final authority on the state of characters and the game world. Until stated otherwise Briget is now trans. Q
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    According to the developer's who shape the game world said Bridget is trans. That means they are trans. Your reasoning is moot, they get the final say on what happens to their world and characters.

    As pointed out if they said Bridger was an alien that just wanted to dress up as a nun. Sure it would be dumb ans as fans we could voice that concern but unfortunately we have no ground to deny that they are now an alien. Their game, their rules. Like it or not they are the final authority on the state of characters and the game world. Until stated otherwise Briget is now trans. Q
    Ok, i will make ti clear to you : Arc System Work doesn't own GG licence for years now.
    It's Sammy Sega.

    They don't have the upper hands on GG anymore, so, basically, some upper ups put this words into his mouth and torld him to forgot what he created.

    This is also one of the reason why Arc Sys created BlazBlue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    According to the developer's who shape the game world said Bridget is trans. That means they are trans. Your reasoning is moot, they get the final say on what happens to their world and characters.

    As pointed out if they said Bridger was an alien that just wanted to dress up as a nun. Sure it would be dumb ans as fans we could voice that concern but unfortunately we have no ground to deny that they are now an alien. Their game, their rules. Like it or not they are the final authority on the state of characters and the game world. Until stated otherwise Briget is now trans. Q
    My opinion is when you retcon something, you are creating a different continuity. I consider this a retcon and thus the current Briget and the original Briget are not the same person. One is a trap and the other is trans. It's like with Dragonball GT, it was considered cannon by Shueisha and Akira Toriyama and they they changed retconned it as if it never happened and continued with Super. You may argue that it was an entire season that got retconned but there has been many smaller retcons in the dragonball series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    Well, Bridget was just breaking gender norms back in the day by being a very feminine guy. But I have the feeling, that this isn't supposed to exist anymore in the world of today. I mean, feminine guys? That can't exist, those must actually be trans right? Because being a guy who looks more soft or androgynous is impossible. You either a bulky manly man or trans.

    I feel like this is a step back, actually. People used to say that it's sexist to say things like 'boys can't wear make-up' or 'girls don't play with cars'. Which is inherently true, it's sexist.
    But in todays world, if someone doesn't fit the gender norm, they have to be trans right? Dangerous mindset...but unfortunately very common.

    Also, this just feels like a retcon or a change to the canon to please the fans. But of course it's hard to prove. Like many things that get changed later on a whim by the directors or authors of certain games, books or movies.
    I'm going to go off topic, but I was involved with a small circle of trans people in tumblr and being the only non-trans person made me feel alot of pressure to try and fit in. I tried my best to be respectful and mindful and I felt out of place no matter how hard I tried to understand or relate to them. I even remember thoroughly researching youtube and listening to the experiences of trans people to try and at least not be inconsiderate. (And at some point I did question my gender due to how much they talked about being trans/transitioning- but I can't blame them this is something that was obviously important to them but not something I related to or wanted)

    I remember we were talking about Alucard from Castlevania Symphony of the Night...and they kept telling me that he's 'trans' and got yelled at when I even questioned it. He's canonically a man.



    This was like 7 years ago. I find it so strange when people project their sexuality/gender onto something that...never had it. It was never up in the air. He was always referred to as male, son and so on. He just...looked feminine.

    Anyway this was offtopic, your post just kinda gave me flashbacks. I think tumblr and twitter are cesspools now that I'm older.
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